RE: Hardware Test Question

Anyone know how I can get hold of an apple hardware test CD for a PMG5 dated Late 2005? I seem to have lost the disk it shipped with.
Many Thanks

Thanks for the advice. I will have a harder look for it over the weekend, but failing that might try the apple store, then auction sites.
Reason i wanted it was because I was curious why when I turn on the G5 I get the grey screen with the timer dial, then a blue screen which stays momentarily. I then get the blue screen cascading away down from top to bottom very quickly to reveal a black screen which only remains very briefly. Very briefly as the black screen disappears I see a split second distortion across the bottom of the screen (becomes slightly pixelated and white) before screen goes blue again after which I get the Leopard log in screen. I recently replaced the original HD with a new one, having first cloned my original HD contents to the second HD bay. Then with the new one I re-installed Leopard and migrated across all files from the cloned drive. Everything else works absolutely perfectly, but never noticed the boot up sequence as described above before I did the change over. I guess I just wondered if it was a clue to something that might end up failing in time?
Anyway any advice on the above would be helpful, otherwise I will source the AHT.
Thanks Again

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The question i want to ask is after the test the optical drive fan stayed revved up at over 2000 RPM for a few minutes after the computer restarted, unlike the other two fans that went back to normal this fan took atleast 3 mins to go back down to normal rpms. Is this normal?
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Also does the HDD run when in a hardware test? as now and then during the test I heard a weird static sound coming from the HDD.

I looked at iStat after restarting from the test and it showed that only the optical drive fan was running at high speed after the test, with the slight buzzing fan still buzzing at low speed. I could hear that the optical drive fan was slowly revving down getting slower and slower, iStat showed it was as well and now its back to normal rpm and not revved anymore. I just thought all fans would return to normal after the test unless the optical drive got hot during the test.
The buzz is not too bad and is only noticeable in a quite room but I'm more concerned about the random grind/static sound the HDD is making ever so often. The sound is very quiet but can still be heard but i don't know what it is, well I know its not the sound of a HDD breaking as I know what that hears like.

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In DV25 sequence, loaded a few clips on single layer [video 1] the time line (plenty of handle, all clips) applied a transition between ALL clips, dissolve. On a NTSC monitor. Safe RT - Playback HIGH - Output Full Quality.
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I have a macbook that is currently not starting up from it's internal HD. The drive will not even show up if I hold down option at start-up and attempt to select it as the start-up disk.
I have the install disks that came with a white macbook, but the computer that I'm working on is a blackbook.
I have attempted to start-up into AHT by holding down 'd' as instructed, the system configuration test runs, I select the language, but then it says that this version is incompatable with the machine.
The AHT verison is 3A118
Is this the right version? Or is there a different version for the blackbook?
I'm going to try to run TechTool Pro a little bit later.
Secondly, I am even unable to re-install the OS from the disk that I have. Could this potentiall be a total failure of the HD that I may not even be able to recover the data from?
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

There have been three MacBook versions. You haven't told us which version MacBook you have, so we can't tell you if that's the right disk or not. The Apple Hardware Test is, as its name suggests, hardware-specific to the model that it shipped with. The correct version isn't dependent on the color of the MacBook, but rather the model/revision. Which processor do you have and what's the speed? Core Duo? Core 2 Duo? 1.8GHz? 2.0GHz? 2.1GHz?
If the Mac OS X installer on that disk tells you that it can't be installed on that model Mac, then you have the wrong disk. You will need the correct disk for both the Mac OS X installer and the Apple Hardware Test. Or does the Mac OS X install fail at a different place?
-Doug

Extended hardware test question

i am running a hardware test on my macbookpro and the test says that "Estimated time to complete: 1 hour or longer , depending on the amount of memory installed." it says "Test" in the bar with no more progress bar shown and under "Test Results" it says "no trouble found" and "Pass Number: 3, Total Time Testing 2 hours 22 mins 16 secs".
the fan started blowing loud and hard when i started the test (unlike the mac pro test) and i am just wondering if this sounds right.
the fan blew loud and hard through the whole test. loud and hard enough to be concerned about it.
is this all normal? normal for a certain MBP model, all MBP's?
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My Intel iMac only shows a blinking folder with a question mark when powering it up. What can I do besides running the hardware test of the original installer disc.

My Intel iMac only shows a blinking folder with a question mark when powered up.
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I have an imac running OSX leopard 10.5.4, and a flashing question mark comes up on the screen. I opened disk utility, and in the sidebar my hard drive is not there. I also did the Hardware test supplied with the install CD, and "no problems were found".

note: I have not done the extended hardware test yet.

Can we assumed that the Disk Utility you used was not on your hard disk? If it was on the hard disk you can ignore most of the advice here and we should start again.
I am am a retired Electrical Engineer with many years electronics and IT experience and advise that whilst it is likely that the hard disk has failed and may never work again this may not necessarily be the case.
Do you normally hear or feel the disk running and has this changed?
Have you moved, dropped or hit your Mac while the disk was rotating? - never good for disks.
Even if the disk is not rotating it may not have failed - there could be an imperfect connection, damaged pcb track, a Mac electronics failure such as disk power etc.
The disk could be working mechanically and there could be a break in the data route to or from it etc.
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Trying the disk in another enclosure was good advice.
You could try gently moving your powered up Mac to see if anything changes.
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Eject disc from menu bar & Hardware Test Disc Questions??

After upgrade to 10.4.5 on my G5 2.5 DP, I notice the little underscored triangle thing is gone from the menu bar.
Any way to get it back? Kinda handy for open & closing the disc drive and ejecting discs. The other ways I know and use, but sorta fond of doing from menu bar.
Also, notice there's no Hardware test disc with Tiger. Where'd that go? O.k. to run the one from 10.3?
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Yet another pointless question about the practically non-existent iMac G5 Apple Hardware Test (AHT) disk.

I have a 17" iMac G5 (iSight model) also known as model A1144, PowerMac12,1 or MA063LL/A.
Where do I download the Apple Hardware Test (AHT) disk for this machine? Apparently nowhere. However, it would really help me on my quest if I knew what I was looking for.
Does anyone know what AHT version is compatable with my machine? 2.2.1? 2.3.1?
How about the part number on the disk? I have some Intel disks that say 2Z691-5734-A that (obviously) won't work.
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018-1680-A.dmg

I have a latest 2.7 EFI update but i still don't have the ATH(Apple Hardware Test) software! why is that so? do we have it on mountain lion?

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During restart-up press the D button before the gray screen appears and hold it for about a minute until u see a 4 or 6 bit image of old mac icon appear and then it loads u go select any language and click hardware test full and then tell me if it DOES HAPPEN ON OS X 10.8(mountain lion).
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Can't boot off Apple Hardware Test disk

Can anyone suggest why my laptop won't boot off of its Apple Hardware Test disk anymore? I have not tried it in years, but want to try now. I have the original, and a copy I made years ago, and neither will boot. I can select them at startup disks in that preference pane in OSX, but then it fails to find it, and boots into OSX. I can boot into OS9 on the hard drive. I was able to partially boot off of a different AHT disk from my 12" Albook G4, but it gave the message that I can't use that disk since it is not meant for the Tibook. One idea is that TechTool tells me that "macintosh startup file was absent", and the Help file states:
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