Re: Intel 4790k / MSI Z97A Gaming 7 / GSkill ripjawsx 16Gb - New PC constant BSOD.

Be careful when removing/inserting the memory not to damage the slots or the PCB.
Normally I would recommend doing all installation and tests outside the case before assembling it in.

Temps are fine..
CPU is hovering between 40-50C and likewise for the GPU.
I should add that recently I had my i7 4790K replaced on an RMA and after getting the new one I seem to be facing the same issue.
My system is starting up with minimal services a...

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MSI Z97A Gaming 6 meets up Intel Broadwell i7 5775C

It’s been awhile since I posted short reviews of PC hardware stuff but today I have something up my sleeve. We will take a quick glance on MSI’s Z97A Gaming 6 motherboard together with Intel’s new Broadwell Processor.
Box design is same as any MSI Gaming motherboard before with black/red theme, dragon logo in front and PCB trace prints all over the box. The only difference is the new USB 3.1 Type-C featured logo on top. Another thing, if you noticed the naming rule for this model. You have the letter “A” after the Z97. “A” stands for the USB 3.1 functionality.
Flipping the box, you have an overview of the input/output ports, specifications and brief information about the features of the Z97A Gaming 6 motherboard.
Specifications:
•CPU Support – 4th and 5th Generation Intel Core Processors
•CPU Socket – LGA1150
•Chipset - Intel Z97 Express Chipset
•Graphics Interface – 3x PCI-3.0 x16 slots with 4th and 5th Gen Intel Core processors
•Display Interface – HDMI, DVI, D-Sub – Requires Processor Graphics
•Memory Support – 4 DIMMs, Dual Channel DDR3-3200(OC)
•Expansion Slots – 4x PCI-Ex1 slots
•M.2/SATA – 1x M.2 Slot + 6x SATA 6GB/s (2 ports reserved for SATA Express)
•SATA RAID – RAID 0, 1, 51 10 – Only available on ports SATA1 to SATA6
•USB Port – 1x USB 3.1 Type-C + 6x USB 3.0 + 6x USB 2.0
•LAN – Killer E2205 Gigabit Ethernet
•Audio – 8-Channel (7.1) HD Audio
Main Features:
•Audio Boost2 – Provides true quality, less noise and crystal clear sound with the aid of high audio quality components such as Japanase Nichicon capacitors, dual audio amplifiers, EMI shielding, audio isolation line, golden audio jacks and direct audio power.
•Killer E2200 – Built for maximum performance for online games and high-quality audio and video streaming.
•USB Audio Power – Continuously delivers stable 5V when connecting multiple USB devices, where traditional USB solutions fall short. This is highly noticeable with high-quality external USB DACs, making sure you can continue to enjoy the crystal clear audio standard you expect.
•USB 3.1 Type-C – Allows speeds up to 10Gb/s which is twice faster than a regular USB 3.0 connection. Type-C is reversible with double sided connections for easier plugging in of your devices.
•Multi-GPU – the board is designed to have spaces in between multi-graphic cards configurations to maximize air flow.
•Gaming-App –Allows simultaneous control of both Gaming motherboard & video card’s overclocking feature. Choose from Silent, Gaming or OC mode.
•Xsplit Gamecaster V2 – Lets you record your gaming moments and broadcast your live gameplay session to Twitch, YouTube, UStream and more. Enjoy 6 months premium license for free.
Next, for the bundle we have the following
•Origin of MSI Gaming
•User Guide
•Door Hanger
•Quick Installation Guide
•DVD Utility Disc
•SATA label sticker
•Black IO Plate with soft static shielding
•SLI Bridge
•Audio direct power cable
•M-Connector for easy installation of cables to headers
•2x 90 degrees SATA 6GB/s cable
•MSI Gaming Case Badge
And there you have it my friend, MSI’s Z97A-Gaming 6 motherboard. Sleek isn’t it?!
This is a 4-layer PCB with matte black finish complimenting the red stripes for both VRM & bottom part heatsinks. There is a total of 8 power phases which is enough to squeeze out more juice from the processor during overclocking. Military Class components make the board sturdy, stable and efficient. You can see them all over the board but specifically more are placed around the processor socket area.
Before getting close with other parts of the board, here are the input/output rear ports. All red ports are part of MSI’s gaming features. Starting from the left is a PS2 combo port capable of autosensing keyboard or mouse and below it are 2x USB 2.0 ports. Both internally are gold plated to protect against oxidation and increase the lifetime 10x longer when plugging/unplugging devices. It also makes the mouse or keyboard more responsive in games.
Next, you have a wide range of display terminal options. Specifically VGA, DVI and HDMI ports and just above that is a Digital SPDIF audio terminal. The small port there is the USB 3.1 type-c connector and beside it are the Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN and 2x USB 3.0 ports. Lastly, 6 analog gold plated audio jacks with one dedicated amplified output optimized for studio-grade headgear.
Did you notice that chrome dragon on the Dragon Claw VRM heatsink before?
I really like how the components are laid out around the socket, no obstructions for installing any 3rd party market coolers out there in the market.
8pin power connector for powering up the processor and MSI manage to put a M.2 socket just above the 1st 16x PCIe slot. M.2 uses PCIe 2x bus and takes full length 2280 and 2260 M.2 devices.
4x DDR3 DIMM slots capable of speeds up to 3200MHz with max capacity of 32GB. On top of the 24pin power connector are the voltage check points. You can just tap your digital multi-tester on the read points to get real-time voltages of hardware components like the processor, memory and system agent.
The board is packed with PCIe connectors that starts with PCIe 1x and runs through 16x, 1x, 1x, 8x, 1x to 4x. If you are planning to do multi-graphics card setup, just go for a dual configuration only as the last video card slot is crippled to 4x bandwidth. At the bottom-most part are headers like USB 2.0, HD Audio, Power/Reset/HDD LED/Power LED and also present here is the debug LED for easy troubleshooting of basic bootup problems.
On the left side is where the isolated Audio Boost system is found. From the audio capacitors, amplifier chips, Realtek audio chip and Audio power header are put together into one place.
6x SATA 6GB/s ports are available but some will be lost once you utilize the SATA Express connection. RAID configurations can be set to 0/1/5 and 10. You also have here another USB 3.0 front header in a 90 degree position for better cable management.
Moving on, here are some handy software features of the MSI Gaming motherboard.
•MSI Eco Center – With this, you can turn off or disable certain ports or connectors of the board.
•MSI Gaming App which I already discussed earlier
•Sound Blaster Cinema 2 – Improving more the audio quality of Audio Boost 2
•MSI Fast Boot & Go2Bios – Shortcut command software to enter BIOS right away after a restart.
•MSI Command Center – The All in One Center to tweak and overclock your motherboard, fans, memory, built-in graphics card and processor.
MSI Command Center lets you enable the OC Genie function through Windows and make use of the RAMDisk application for high data read and write performance
Here is another exciting part of the review. Intel’s flagship LGA-1150 Broadwell i7-5775C. This is a 14nm die shrink of Haswell which was built on 22nm with a few tweaks and rated speed of 3.3Ghz (Turbo 3.7GHz). Being 14nm in die size, results to a lower power consumption and lesser heat. TDP is only at 65W but I guess Intel might be releasing soon a Broadwell based on 88W with higher frequency.
You have here is the first set of Broadwell to be launched in the market. As for the naming rule goes, I’m not really sure why Intel use “C” this time for their unlocked multiplier processors while “R” is for the BGA (Ball Grid Array) embedded to the board package.
*Crystalwell is the codename of the L4 cache (eDRAM) featured in the Iris Pro-enabled Haswell CPUs
Another best feat of Broadwell is its integrated graphics chip – Iris Pro 6200. It utilizes the extra eDRAM L4 Cache to gain more memory bandwidth. The architecture also provides faster 3d and compute performance
•20% more computes and 50% higher sampler throughput
•Microarchitecture improvements for increased Geometry, Z, Pixel Fill Performance
•More Thermal Headroom with 14nm Process
•Scalable Architecture
•Continued Focus on Gaming with support for Direct X* 11.2 & OpenGL* 4.3
•OpenCL 1.2 and 2.0 (with Shared Virtual Memory Support) for GPU Compute
You will be amaze how the Iris Pro 6200 performs with popular games title today. Benchmarks will be shown later too and the only thing I could say “We have a new IGP king!!!”.
Here comes the good part where the motherboard and processor meets up. They will be put to the test to show off some benchies scores
Test System Configuration:
•Processor: Intel i7-5775C 3.3Ghz / 3.7Ghz Turbo
•Motherboard: MSI Z97A Gaming 6
•Integrated Graphics: Intel Iris Pro 6200
•Memory: Kingston HyperX 2x4GB DDR3 2133MHz
•SSD: Kingston HyperX 3k 128GB
•PSU: Antec TPQ 1200W
Software:
Windows 7 64Bit SP1, latest downloadable CPU-Z & GPU-Z, Cinebench R15 & R11.5, PCMark 7, Heaven Benchmark, 3dMark13 , Catzilla
Games:
Far Cry 4 and Call of Duty Advanced Warfare
Catzilla is a benchmark program with impressive animation. It tests your computer graphics capabilities if it can run the latest games today or watch HD movies in best quality. It can also suggest what hardware modules of your computer should be replaced in order to get best performance.
PCMark 7 is a complete PC benchmarking solution that measure performance under common use scenarios or at the hardware component level. It includes 7 tests combining more than 25 individual workloads covering storage, computation, image and video manipulation, web browsing and gaming.
Heaven software is a GPU-intensive benchmark software that tests your graphics card to the limits. This can be used to determine the stability of a GPU under stressful conditions, as well as check the cooling system’s potential under maximum heat output
Basic mode uses DirectX 9
Extreme mode is DirectX 11
Maxon Cinebench Software tests both CPU and Graphics Card Performance. I use version R11.5 and R15 of Cinebench
CPU test scenario uses all of your system’s processing power to render a photorealistic 3D Scene. This scene makes use of various algorithms to stress all available processor cores.
R11.5 CPU Result: 8.52
For the Graphic test side, the procedure uses a complex 3D scene depicting a car chase which measures the performance of your graphics card in OpenGL mode. The performance depends on various factors, such as the GPU processor on your hardware, on the drivers used. The graphics card has to display a huge amount of geometry and textures.
R11.5 GPU Result: 2074.43
R15 CPU Result: 792CB
R15 GPU Result: 81.63
3dMark13 Cloud Gate is a new test that is designed for Windows notebooks and typical home PCs. Cloud Gate includes two graphics tests and a physics test. Cloud Gate uses a DirectX 11 engine limited to Direct3D feature level 10 making it suitable for testing DirectX 10 compatible hardware.
Fire Strike is a showcase DirectX 11 benchmark designed for today's high-performance gaming PCs. It features real-time graphics rendered with detail and complexity far beyond what is found in other benchmarks and games today.
Lastly, game benchmark results of Intel Iris Pro 6200. Resolution at 1920x1080 with medium graphics quality.
We know how intensive Far Cry 4 game is but Iris Pro 6200 was able to handle it
These are the game settings
Call of Duty Advanced Warfare baby!!! And it’s fast and smooth!!!!
So that concludes my short review. The Gaming 6 is quite similar with the Gaming 5 design except for the IO Ports, inclusion of the USB 3.1 function and SATA Express port. So if you are planning to build your gaming system now, it’s good to have these new functions as to make your system future proof. I’m sure there will be lots of USB 3.1 devices in the future, be it smartphones or storage devices. Aside from this, Z97 chipset motherboards are compatible with the latest Intel Broadwell processors. I’m sure you were amazed upon seeing the performance of the Intel Iris Pro 6200 in games. The IGP is capable of playing latest games smoothly even at high resolutions.
More reviews to come and it’s nice to be back

Thanks for the tip Henry! As mentioned, this will be my last resort...
Pat
Quote from: HenryW on Today at 21:49:31 I normally test any build of mine on a sheet of plain brown cardboard cut from a box. I always do...

Choose ram for i7 4790K + MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC

My PC
i7 4790K
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC
RAM Corsair cmd8GX3M2A1600C8 2x 4gb
ASUS GTX 780 Ti DC2 OC
PSU SEASONIC p760w platinum
SSD samsung evo 250gb
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1. I saw on the web MSI, about compatible ram.
and ram that I used did not exist in the list.
whether the ram that I use is not compatible with i7 4790K + MSI Z97 gaming 9 AC ?.
2. I plan to replace my ram, but I was confused by the many choices.
---------- CMY16GX3M2A2133C11R
---------- CMY16GX3M2A2400C11A
please give me advice, where ram is better than what I use now.

Quote from: Nichrome on 29-December-14, 01:07:50
Possibly yes. But there is no real performance improvement and difference between 1333MHz (lowest DDR3 sold) and 2666MHz. 1FPS in some games, so it's not really worth $100 more, as that's common price difference between 2x8GB 1600MHz and 2x8GB 2133MHz. If you need MORE amount of memory, then yes it makes sense. But if you only want to have it "quicker" then there's no point.
MSI simply tests certain amount of kits on certain motherboard and that's it. If it works, they say it's compatible, if it doesn't, then I think they also mention that. If they don't test something, then it's not mentioned at all.
I tried to run my ram at 2133MHz. with memory try it. and I made it, but I do not change the settings laiinya.
is there any other suggestions?
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I am not looking for a FPS, but I seek the comfort of playing.

MSI Z97A Gaming 9 ACK Question

Hi guys, I wanna purchase the Z97A Gaming 9 ACK and I also wanna use a Samsung M.2 XP941 256GB SSD with it. I wanna know if I can use 2 GTX 980s in SLI while also using the said Samsung M.2 SSD with this MB? or will I have to move to X99 Platform?

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I see the lates Bios for this Board is 1.9 and strangely 1.A version which seems like a beta if I'm correct.
nope, 1.A is also official version
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Also I keep hearing a lot about BSODs on MSI Gaming MBs due to Killer Ethernet, Is this something I should worrie about?
don't think so
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Im more of minimalist and usually don't install any extra software and I plan on using the base driver only for E2205 from MSI website, I also wont be attaching the Wireless card or using it as I only always use the Wire Ethernet.
sounds fine

MSI A88XM GAMING | Can't boot with new PCI-e x1 card plugged in

Hi,
I'm a owner to an MSI A88XM GAMING motherboard and I purchased a AverMedia Live Gamer HD card last week. After unboxing and installing the card to one of my PCI-e x1 slots the computer won't boot. All what happends is what the fans starts and the power LED turns on, but that's all. No beeps or anything.
I know for sure what the AverMedia Live Gamer HD card is working just fine, as I've already tested it on my old computer. I've also tested if it might have been a power issue, by disconnected everything and running it on a towel outside the case, still the same result. Connecting it to any of the other 3 PCI-e ports gives the same result. All the PSU cables are properly connected and the motherboard has the latest BIOS version on it.
Is there any way to get it to work on my computer? I would really like to avoid switching motherboard is possible. Using a 2:nd computer is also not an option, as I want to be able to just take it with me without any issues.
My Computer
Motherboard: MSI A88XM GAMING
CPU: AMD A10-7850K
RAM: Kingston HyperX Beast 2400MHz 2x8GB
GFX: XFX R9 280X 3GB DD Black
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB
Case: BitFenix Prodigy M Black
PSU: Corsair 760W (don't remember the model)
OS: Win 8.1 Pro x64

Quote from: jfreiman on 15-October-14, 16:54:29
Well, someone is doing something with the BIOS because they sent me 1.2B6 a couple weeks ago for the same 88XM GAMING motherboard -- and it didn't fix my Display Port issues. Maybe the changes were to the PCIe timings?
I didn't want to test any more 1.2 beta builds, due to earlier problem with them. But I'll give the final build of v1.2 a try later today, I didn't notice what it had been released.
Quote from: Alcifer on 18-October-14, 01:47:13
Out of curiosity, have you tried the video output from the motherboard, instead of the 280x, when you have card installed? (Make sure the IGP is enabled in bios)
That was one of the very first things I tried, did so after my 2:nd post on the forum. You can find the results here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=183220.msg1315289#msg1315289
I've contacted the AverMedia Support, hopefully they should be able to find the issue. It's possible what it might be a firmware related issue.
I've also searched around on the XSplit forum if there's anyone else what have run into the same problem. But couldn't find anything, so I made a thread and asked directly instead. I got a reply from someone on the Support Staff, but he couldn't find anything either.

Re: MSI Z97A Gaming 6 meets up Intel Broadwell i7 5775C

Killer review and I'm amazed to see the iris graphics results do so well! Thank you for the great review.

Thanks for the tip Henry! As mentioned, this will be my last resort...
Pat
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MSI Z97A Gaming 7 Advice/Help

Quote from: HenryW on Today at 22:05:57 Also what PSU have you been looking to buy for this build of yours?
I'm guessing you mean the Power Supply. Right now I haven't really looked very much because I th...

Svet - oh, well, I hoped they are there... but nevermind. I drop MSI tech support an email: [email protected]
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Chike - Quoteor co...

Re: MSI Z97A Gaming 7 Advice/Help

Re: PSU, as I said previously it's +12V amps you need to go by not the watts. Cheaper PSUs with high watt rating don't have the higher +12V amps that better quality PSU can provide. When it comes to that ignore the watt rating and go by the +12V amps....

Quote from: Chike on Yesterday at 21:56:25Nah, the built in graphics is no match for the card.
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Inspect all parts for visual damage, especially CPU socket for bent pins (a macro picture ...

Re: MSI z97a gaming 7 what RAM

What site are you buying from?

So okay decided after your help to pick 1600mhz ram from compatibility list of my mobo but which will be best:
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MSI Gaming Z97A Gaming 9 ACK Sound Card Install

Hi fellow MSI users I am having an issue when trying to install my Creative Fatality Recon Soundcard in any of the PCIE 2.0 x 1 slots it is not detected in the bios. The soundcards led lights up so it appears to be getting power but the bios reports it as empty. I have tried everything and I am not sure what am I doing wrong?
Here are my specs
Main Board: MSI Z97A Gaming 9 ACK
Bios Version: V1.11
Video Card: GTX 980 GAMING 4G
PSU: Corsair TX 850
12v rail Rating of listed PSU:+12V Rail The dedicated 60A
CPU: Intel i7 4790K
Memory: 2 x G.SKill F3-12800CL10-8GBXL
SSD/ HDD: Samsung EVO 250gb
CPU COOLER:stock
Raid Card:none
Sound Card:
Any Additional hardware plugged into your system: Nope
OC: (Yes / No) NO
Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro

Finding information on the card is pretty hard.
Does this require any type of external power to be plugged into it? Maybe you missed that part?
Granted this is slightly different, but my older Asus Xonar sound card required a plug from the power supply in order to make it work and be detected, even though the lights on the card would light up.

MSI Z97 Gaming 7 not booting up

Hi guys,
I have just purchased new motherboard & new intel core i7 4790K. I've installed everything & when I tried to boot up the system it stuck to 72 error code during post checks in manual which states as "Late South Bridge Initalization" Please help guys as I m not able to boot up the system.. My configuration is as follows:
Intel core i7 4790k
MSI Z97 Gaming 7 MoBo
Corsair XMS 3 4Gb RAM
Corsair H100i CPU cooler
Corsair CS750M PSU
NZXT Source 530 cabinet
Please help guys ....

Hi
What you can do is either:
-Return the board (RMA)
-Try to straighten it yourself using needle, magnifying glass and bright light
-Ask local jeweler if they can straighten it up for you.

MSI Z97 gaming 9 AC Cmedia audio.

hello i have problem with cmedia audio (i like use cmedia for my headset, beautiful sound )
but cmedia make big latecny.
is felt when I played the game FIFA 15.
then I disable c media from the device manager.
and I use Realtek, but not as good as c media voice.
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i7 4790k
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC bios 1.7
corsair 2x4GB cl8
ASUS GTX 780 TI DC 2 OC
windows 8.1

Does this happen only when playing FIFA 15?
Do you have Sound Blaster Cinema installed?
I'm sure you can find a software called "Xear....(sor I forgot)" in your computer if you had installed the cmedia driver. And there's a button shows ASIO, then you can switch audio bit depth there, can try that switch to 16 and see what happens next.

MSI Z97 gaming 7 + intel i7 4790k

Hello. I bought the M/B MSI Z97 gaming 7. While I don't know what version of BIOS firmware installed. And I couldn't check it, because I only bought the motherboard. I want to buy a CPU for this motherboard - intel i7 4790k. Latest firmware version for this motherboard specified on the official website is 1.8
- Updated the VBIOS and GOP driver.
- Updated CPU Micro code to support new Intel CPU.
- Improved Asmedia SATA device compatibility.
When updating the BIOS via M-Flash, please make sure that your USB storage device is recognized as a "Removable Device",
If your USB storage device is not recognized as a "Removable Device", please update the BIOS via MSI Live update under windows.
Maybe this will turn out, that this processor (intel i7 4790k) will not work for this motherboard because of outdated firmware, and flash card is not recognized so I can't flash the BIOS or through a flash card or through Windows ?

Quote from: 964758 on 23-January-15, 22:33:17
Dear friend. Another question. How you understand about version of BIOS firmware by serial number of motherboard ? B - (means BIOS), 14 (means version 1.4) ? Do I understand correctly ? I will be waiting for your reply
NO you have that wrong and I will explain it to you:
its based off DATE! you can work out roughly what it will have shipped with by just cross-referencing the manufacture date and the BIOS release dates and which one was available at the time!
here is how you tell when it was made from MSI: S/N: 601-7916-010B1406030678 that is the date code in RED (Format YY/MM/DD) so that puts your board as made at 14/06/03 so it will have the BIOS version that was available at that time!
Nichrome has made a slight Mistake here your board actually has BIOS version 1.3 installed (>> 7916v13.zip << 2014-05-23 BIOS version) out the factory from the date code as its a early 2014 - June board towards the begging of the month (1.4 was not out till the end of the month)!
your board Will still support the chip (i7-4790k) as its got the minimum BIOS version (1.3) for that CPU for it to work out the box with it!

MOVED: MSI Z97 Gaming 5 and Intel Core i7 4790K

This topic has been moved to GAMING Motherboards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=181378.0

Quote from: AranelSurion on 03-July-14, 22:02:56
Speancer, what was the BIOS version yours shipped with?
I got a GAMING 5, according to MSI Support it's V1.0, since I don't have a spare LGA1150 chip I'm really curious if 4790K is going to work as it is. My build is from entirely new parts, so if somehow it fails to POST, I can't know for sure if it's because of the outdated BIOS or something else, It would be great to know if it's actually going to work or not on 1.0 .
Anybody tried 4790K with 1.0 BIOS? Does it work?
It was 1.0 Like I said, it works perfectly ouf of the box on MSI Z97 Gaming 5 with i7 4790K CPU. After installing system and most of my softwares like it was before format, I noticed that I could not enter BIOS, but system was working normally. Then I flashed BIOS from 1.0 to 1.3 in Windows and it worked again and has been working ever since.
Good luck with your new rig

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC - Intel Wireless AC 7260 module don't work

Hi,
Please help me, i started my new rig and the wi-fi module (that hard to fit in the mobo) don't even appear in device manager.
I already tried to dismount and remount the module on the motherboard with extreme care, no success.
Here is my rig:
Main Board: MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC
Bios Version: 1.4
Video Card: R9 290X
Memory: 16 Gb Corsair Vengeance 2400Mhz
Processor Intel 4790K
OC: Not yet
Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro 64
Please help me

Recheck your WiFi Bluetooth expansion module connection on the board.
Recheck your MB mounting in the case, i.e. errant standoffs. Perhaps test the board outside the case on a non conductive surface to ensure no potential short exists. Then retest with the WiFi plugged in.

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