RE: JVC TMH150CGU 15" Color Production Monitor?

Greetings:
Looking for a dent, but mid-priced monitor for editing and color correction. I've read some pretty positive things about the JVC TMH150CGU 15" Color Production Monitor. Anyone using this? Anything else comparable that I should also check out?
Blessings,
Craig

I have this monitor. It has recently been discontinued by JVC. The world is turning HD LCD so you may get stuck with it when you upgrade your techniques or footage. It has very good picture quality and can be calibrated well, but remember that it is a standard definition monitor, so you will not be able to easily or inexpensively monitor 1080p/24fps timelines in FCP. I needed it for that purpose and found I would need to spend a lot more for a Matrox converter to use this monitor for those timelines. Unfortunately, I will be selling mine on ebay and purchasing a low end Sony LCD for canvas external monitoring.

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basically, some necessary items are switchable aspect ratio, underscan/overscan and then some sort of blue check for proper chroma and phase calibration. some monitors have a gray scale blue check which i think completely blows. it's better to have a monitor with viewable red, blue and green guns as the blue gun is more accurate for calibration than a grayscale blue check feature. also, there are other diagnostic functions that are viewable by using the red or green guns to view color bars.
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Okay, so here's the deal.
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In effect, it seems that anything generated in Motion just doesn't want to look nice on our Production Monitor - even when imported into FCP.
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4.5 GB DDR SDRAM
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 9800 XT
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It just isn't right.
Please help. Pretty please. Many thanks in advance.
For reference, here are the specs of our set up:
Apple Dual 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5
4.5 GB DDR SDRAM
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 9800 XT
Equipped with Kona LH Card (version 5)
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Alright! So I reread through all this, poked at some things on the internet, and I'm going to attempt to summarize what would be a good solution for all this (And it seems, it still won't be perfect, but to get myself into the best environment I can for not messing with images for an hour trying to make them look nice before I post them to the web. I painted something yesterday on the cintiq, popped it over to my laptop screen and it just looked washed out and terrible.)
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That is a prodution monitor, not a computer monitor, so it won't have DVI inputs.
I only need to monitor from Final Cut Pro's Timeline; no input or output needed (like from a Kona Card).
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Thanks very much for your quick replies and advice. I was away from my computer
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