Re-Linking EXS Sampler Instruments & Samples

1 - Curious what you think of this concept:
I have an external drive that I'd like to be able to move to several computers and use as my samples drive. To keep things consistent, I thought it best to keep BOTH EXS Sampler Instruments & Samples on this drive. Then I can just create aliases of the EXS Sampler Instruments and drop them in the main logic support folder. That way I can easily just move the drive to either computer for the greatest flexibility.
Is this ok to do? Is there a better way?
2 - I'd like to re-link many EXS Sampler Instruments to their samples. I used to use the ExsManager Pro.app but that stopped working a while back. Is there another way to have logic do all the re-linking instead?

revDAVE wrote:
I have an external drive that I'd like to be able to move to several computers and use as my samples drive. To keep things consistent, I thought it best to keep BOTH EXS Sampler Instruments & Samples on this drive. Then I can just create aliases of the EXS Sampler Instruments and drop them in the main logic support folder. That way I can easily just move the drive to either computer for the greatest flexibility.
Yes, you can do this.
2 - I'd like to re-link many EXS Sampler Instruments to their samples. I used to use the ExsManager Pro.app but that stopped working a while back. Is there another way to have logic do all the re-linking instead?
I highly suggest that you contact Redmatica and get an update to get it working again.

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Well yeah, I know I can do it this way, but that's loads of steps.
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All you really need to do is decide exactly how you want your library in the filesystem - map, save EXS, save PM data at the end of the day. Leave your sampler, REX, EXS files where they are after they are mapped. If you don't move or modify them ( may want to allow yourself read only privs ) then you should have virtually no problems like relink, slow load times...
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benjamingordon wrote:
hi.
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