Re: MSI 580 Lightning - Water block?

There appears to be a full cover water-block for the GTX580 Lightning.
Anyone from MSI confirm this is ok to be used or rather, know any details on this?
http://www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_20&products_id=2570

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MSI GTX 580 Lightning + Asrock Z68 Pro 3 Issue

Hi!
I just bought a new computer with gtx 580 lightning and asrock z68 pro 3 motherboard. I am having issues with the pci-e slot and the graphics card. My motherboard doesnt recognize the card. I have updated my MB bios to newest one but it didn't help. I also tried the lightning in my old gaming rig and it worked fine there. Also tried my old graphics card in my new rig and worked just fine. Power wise I should be fine because my old rig has 600w power supply and it worked, new rig has 50 wats more and is more quality PSU.
Also the red and green leds on the gtx 580 lightning are on and fans are spinning but when I try to attach the monitor it just doesnt give anything out.
I am really running out of options here and dunno what to do. I have the intel i5 2500k processor so I can use the onboard graphics to prowse the web. Also managed to install win7 64bit and MB drivers.
Anyone having this same issue ? Or any solutions to my problem? Would be nice to get my rig up and running fully.
Thanks!

Quote from: Bas on 07-September-11, 04:33:45
AsRock already tested the combination and it works:
http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/45683-asrock-z68-pro-3-msi-gtx-580-lightning-issue.html
Maybe the motherboard has broken PCI-e slots, as Asrock suggested, goto a dealer and check it out with them.
The combination is not a problem, but if a PCI-e slot is broken it can explain all of this.
As the card works in other systems, it's hardly possible it's the card, else it would fail too.
And yes, because an ATI card works it doesn't mean the PCI-e slot is good, have seen such before.
He replaced the board with new one Asus P8P67 Pro and still doesn't works on-board led shows VGA init error.
So 2 different brand new boards with broken slots is very unlikely. [both of them worked fine with different video cards]
The MSI's GTX 580 Lightning worked fine in meantime with the same PSU [he also tested with different one and it works fine with both PSU's on 3th board] on 3th different mainboard.
It's some kind of compatibility issue [based on all facts]
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AsRock already tested the combination and it works:
http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/45683-asrock-z68-pro-3-msi-gtx-580-lightning-issue.html
They test it but not with the same card Lightning card, they used reference card instead [MSI N580GTX-M2D15D5].
The VBIOS structure of the non reference design used on Lightning cards are very different compared to regular versions,
as well the card itself compared to reference one.

Water block for a reference MSI HD7970, which block do you recommend?

Hi,
Just bought a new MSI HD7970 reference model. As the reference fan is very loud I will be buying me a water block for this awesome card.
Can you recommend me a nice waterblock? I live in Sweden and therefore it's a plus if I can buy it from here. Otherwise, buying from inside the EU would be nice.
I've looked some at the EK. I don't really like the design so much, and I've also heard of some leakage problems with EK?
Other block I've looked at is the heatkiller. I have these on my dual HD5970 and like the performance and design of these.
So, if you could give me your advice on a nice water block, I would really appreciate it!
I'm really new to water cooling so I doesn't know much about what alternatives there is.
Here is a picture of my recent setup with HD5970 in crossfire with heatkiller-blocks.

An idea would be the Swiftech Komodo-HD7900 series full cover VGA waterblock: http://www.swiftech.com/KOMODO-HD7900.aspx.
Very great is the aquagrATIx HD 7970 block but could be hard to get outside Germany: http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=2848
Alternatively it would still be EK. Unlike you heard the EKs can't be that bad as it is the factory pre-installed block of PowerColor's Water Cooled LCS Radeon HD7970

MSI GTX 580 Lightning XE - no DTS-HD and no Dolby Digital TrueHD?

Hello,
I have just upgraded from the gtx 460 to 580 Lightning XE and the above audio formats are gone. I thought the 280.26 drivers caused it so I went back to 275.33 and DTS-HD and DD TrueHD are still missing.
Since the gtx 460 supports these formats I presumed that the 580 does as well.
In Playback Devices > Supported Formats, only 3 formats are listed: DTS Audio, Dolby Digital Plus and Dilby Digital
In Nvidia Control Panel, the HDCP is not supported when I select my TV/amp. When I had my tv/amp connected via hdmi cable to gtx 460, all was functioning correctly, all formats were listed.
PowerDVD and Total MediaTheater worked perfectly fine playing dts-hd an dd truehd from bluray discs, now these formats are just not available anywhere. Only normal DTS and DD is played.
I really hope that this is a software issue
DTS-HD and DD TrueHD are supported from HDMI 1.3 version. The GTX 580 chip supposedly supports HDMI 1.4a. NVIDIA and MSI please fix it!
Here's the fix request form, please can as anyone request a fix through this form? http://nvidia-submit.custhelp.com/app/ask
The chip 580 should support DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD.

Quote from: Svet on 22-August-11, 03:31:24
have you tried msi's drivers too? http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Lightning-Xtreme-Edition.html#/?div=Driver&os=Win7%2032
No I haven't. I didn't even think of that. I always go for the official nvidia drivers. I'm downloading it now.
edit: Installed them drivers, and no change. DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD are still missing.
I found some "info" here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/4
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NVIDIA slightly revised their display controller for GF110/GTX580; the good news is that HDMI 1.4a is supported, the bad news is that full audio bitstreaming is not supported so it’s the same as it was on the GTX 480: 8 channel LPCM and lossy audio formats like DD+ and DTS. This actually caught us off-guard since we were expecting the full GF104 treatment here, but it just goes to show that this is a GF100-derrivative after all. Unfortunately this also extends to the number of displays supported – NVIDIA still only supports 2 displays on one card, so you need to run in SLI if you intend to take advantage of 3DVision/NVIDIA surround across 3 monitors.
If that's true, it doesn't look good..

Is 650W PSU going to handle MSI GTX 580 Lightning Extreme

Greetings,
My PC spec:
i7-2600 @ 4GHZ
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4-B3, Sandy bridge
DDR3 Corsair 2x4GB (1600Mhz)
MSI GTX 560-ti Twin Frozr II 1GB DDR5
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(+3,3V/36A, +5V/30A, +12V1/18A, +12V2/18A, +12V3/18A, +12V4/18A, +5Vsb/3A, -12V/0.8A) - SLI ready, efficiency > 85%
There are divided rails 4x 12V@18A each on my PSU.
is my PSU going to handle MSI GTX 580 Lightning Extreme 3GB DDR5 ?
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-N580GTX-Li...4570127&sr=8-1
as this card has ca 30W more consumption then my current GTX560. I run it overclocked and I see no problems here. (almost on 1000Mhz Core)
As on the sites I've read they tested and they had max 20-30A, so I expect there will be no problem.
Can you guys help me figure it out?
Thank you.
Shamy12

Quote from: Svet on 30-August-11, 01:57:10
Oks,
625W-155W = 470W , 470W/12V = 39A
The MSI GTX 580 Lightning Extreme needs at least 42A at +12V
I would replace that PSU with better one, [more quality one, not Fortron] and single rail [not a multi rail PSU] ==> PSU's---2 x 12v---The Dual Rail Myth: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=77071.0
with Single rail quality PSU like Corsair 650TX/V2, 750TX, 850TX or above depend of your needs
Ok, I'm going to CORSAIR HX1050, just to be ready for eventually SLI, overcloacking and to not upgrade 3x times :D
.. Thanks

Desperately need help finding MSI GTX 580 lightning.

I ordered components for the new PC I'm building last week, and parts have arrived in the mail periodically. For my graphics cards, I ordered two MSI GTX 580 Lightning (not Xtreme) cards, both from Amazon. I intended to use them in SLI, for gaming as high resolution (please do not tell me they're overkill, I already know they are. I'm a bit tired of people pointing that out). The first one is scheduled to arrive soon, but the second card was cancelled without reason a day after I placed the order. I then tried to order the second card from AVA Direct, but that order was also abruptly cancelled. I've looked on Newegg, Amazon, and a dozen or so other sites, but can't find another available GTX 580 Lightning. I don't know why they're suddenly not available... I would be really, really grateful if anyone would help me find another MSI GTX 580 Lightning card to use in my dream rig. I live in the US. What I'm trying to do here is find someone who knows a site that has an available card that I can complete my build with. So... Help find a graphics card for a devoted enthusiast?

It seems that amazon doesn't have the product anymore after searching for 'gtx 580 lightning' and 'msi gtx 580'. Try creating a support ticket to ask msi if the product is just plain discontinued, as I don't see anyone with it in stock.
And actually, I did manage to find this place: http://www.colamco.com/store/stat/product/1071363.html
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MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition Turn Off LED's?

Hello all MSI users.
Strangely enough, I only heard about MSI Products since last night, and I knew straight up, I needed to get my hands on one of these outstanding products.
The only thing that is holding me back from getting this amazing MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition is the question of if there is posibility in the utilities or on the card itself to turning off the LED's completely?
(then of course turning them back on without damaging the GPU or the LED's.)
The reason why I ask is, I usually leave my PC on over night to do either some long Downloads, a Defrag or a Deep Virus Scan, and as my PC is technically next to my bed, I don't want to be kept up all night with it shining in my face and then having to chuck a T-Shirt over the top of my case.
Please inform me if there is any possibility of this to work without having to go to some 'Xtreme' to turn the LED's off.
Much Appreciated Guys.

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MSI GTX 580 Lightning XE Fan Problem

Hi forumites
I am the proud owner of a new MSI GTX 580 Lightning XE Graphics card, so far I have not had any problems at all with my games and am happy to report the card appears to be functioning in the way I had hoped (better than my previous card).
However there is one annoying problem I have been having with the fans. For some strange reason the card appears to be spiking fan usage at idle for no reason.
I can be sat idle at desktop, or surfing the internet and for no reason the fan shoots up to 3500RPM.
In order to try and troubleshoot the problem I have done some fan usage monitoring with MSI Afterburner, as you can see here the fan speed seems to shoot straight up and then back down again.
My card has not been modified in anyway , neither have I fiddled with the card's BIOS.
Do you have any suggestions as to what could be causing this problem?
My signature should hopefully contain my system specifications. Card appears to be functioning fine in games and 3dMark and I have not had ANY TDR crashes, just this fan thing is getting quite annoying!
Thanks.
John

Quote from: JohnZS on 29-December-11, 21:02:31
Sorry I must admit I must have not made myself quite clear, it is both fans on the GPU which rev up to very fast speeds for a second or two. I have noticed that this only happens within the first say 10-20minutes of the PC being switched on, it then calms down and acts as normal after a while.
Even loading with Kombuster etc fans rev as expected to a speed to cool the card (~68C FULL LOADING in KOMBUSTER) I am pretty happy that this temperature is what I should be expecting as various reviews say this card is very cool compared to say a Generic 580. I also recall a post of your's Svet somewhere saying that the card loads from 65-70 depending on operation and cooling of case etc.
I shall have to take the side off and inspect the LEDs.
John
Quote from: JohnZS on 29-December-11, 21:02:31
Sorry I must admit I must have not made myself quite clear, it is both fans on the GPU which rev up to very fast speeds for a second or two.
Yes, i confused your case with this one: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=155293.0
Where one of the FANs was behavior different than another one, so in my last reply in your topic i was assuming that this was your issue

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MSI R7970 Lightning BE

Whats up with the production of this card? I did a RMA of one of my two Lightning cards. It was defect and i got my money back. But when i tried to find one to replace it with, it was out of stock in every single store (Norway and Sweden). The retailers tells me that it will be available in the future but nothing happens.
I bought water blocks from EK for these cards and if the card is discontinued a wont have any use for one of them. And since i cant return the water block it will be 175 USD for nothing.
So will it return to stock anytime soon, or ever?

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GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Running Hot

Hey guys, just got a 580 Lightning Xtreme and love it so far! I've noticed that it's been running quite hot, though. While playing BF3 on ultra, it can sometimes get up to around 88 celcius. Is this normal? I haven't tested out very many other games. Also, the temperature inside my case never goes over 27 celcius, so it's not a problem with airflow or anything like that. The heat is focused just to the graphics card. Now I understand that BF3 is very demanding, and I've found that the card usually runs at about 99% usage when I'm playing. Can this just be the reason? Or is my card particularly hot?
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Quote from: Hyco24 on 27-November-11, 16:42:04
I wish I could tell you exactly what the issue is as to why your temps are showing what they are, but I don't have a straight answer for ya. I am just trouble shooting with you. From my experience it sounds like a thermal issue. Have you tried to run the fan at 100%? I know it can be loud but if it helps then it could be air flow, if it doesn't really help (4-6c lower) then it might be a bad thermal application.
Some other thoughts are since the card is down clocking, the voltage is being lowered while it is in 2D mode so temps should be low since there isn't very much activity on the GPU. I can't tell you what your specific card should be in this mode since I haven't had hands on with one. I would say that since there is very little voltage going to the chip temps should be in the mid 20s to low 30s depending on fan speed.
I understand not wanting to send a new product back it isn't fun to get a taste of the power and then have to send it back so soon. Since it is so new where did you get the card from? You should be able to take it back and exchange it for another one. That is if you went to a store to buy it. If you got it online you could send it back to them too, as long as it is a e-tailer.
If MSI says that it doesn't void the warranty by changing the thermal paste that is an option too. I would rather do that personally, but if you haven't done it before it can be scary.
I had every fan in my case at 100%, still running hot. I bought from TigerDirect. If something is wrong with this card, I'd almost rather just get a fresh new one instead of monkeying around with a brand new one with problems. I don't know why, but having to "fix" a $600 card just doesn't sit right with me.
You'd really think that they test these things before shipping them out or something........

SLI GTX 580 Lightning Series

i have put SLI 2 card, GTX 580 Lightning XE and GTX 580 Lightning, but the SLI mode can't run... i tried the SLI bridge from MSI and motherboard and also the newest nvidia driver...
i didn't see the SLI option in Nvidia Control Panel...
any body can help me??? please...
my rig. i7 980X, Asus Rampage II Extreme, Corsair Dominator DDR3 12GB, PSU Tagan BZ 1100W
i'm sorry my english is bad, i'm from indonesia

Quote from: trumengan on 02-November-11, 18:36:48
i have put SLI 2 card, GTX 580 Lightning XE and GTX 580 Lightning, but the SLI mode can't run... i tried the SLI bridge from MSI and motherboard and also the newest nvidia driver...
i didn't see the SLI option in Nvidia Control Panel...
any body can help me??? please...
my rig. i7 980X, Asus Rampage II Extreme, Corsair Dominator DDR3 12GB, PSU Tagan BZ 1100W
i'm sorry my english is bad, i'm from indonesia
You have two graphic cards with different amounts of Video RAM. The lightning has 1.5 gb and the Xtreme has 3 gb of Video RAM. You can only SLI cards with the same memory sizes.

Need help overclock the MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition !

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what is temperature should be consider over heat and might damage card?
After overclock, can I keep that always in 3-5 days without shutdown computer?
Here is default Corelock 832, Shaderlock: 1664, memory clock 2100
Also, when I click the "K" to show MSI Kombustor: I see Core: 416, and GPU Throttling -416Mhz. What is happening? is that graphic card has problem? it doesn't run fully 832mhz.
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Quote from: flobelix on 02-December-12, 01:03:03
Playing aan entire level of Crysis or Crysis2 with extreme settings is a very sure way to test. A multiplayer round of BF3 at max settings is also a good test.
If you got the max stable clockrates without overvolting and temps are fine. Go on adding voltage in small steps and agin try the highest max clockrate of any voltage step. That way you'll find the total max clockrate. At some point adding voltage will have no effect anymore and that is the highest clockrate. Remember that voltage unlike just higher clockrates will increase the temps massively.
Agreed with flobelix
Crysis 2 with ultra setting and set Vsync to Disabled is a very hard test in real life application, I don't use furmark or kombustor. To test stability first I run Vantage and 3DMark2011 then playing Crysis 2 about 2 - 3 hours every day for aweek or 2 weeks and if pass then I call it stable
I use GTX580 Lightning and at stock volt I can do 920/2200 with all little DIP switches turned ON/Enabled/Unlocked excluding Xtreme cooling LN2 DIP switch since I use normal air cooling and not LN2. If I let all DIP switches to their stock/OFF even at 900MHz I can't pass Vantage.
For safe daily OC better stay under 80c for your core temp and under 70c for your VRM & Memory temp also do not use beyond +200mv for your core voltage (+200mv is the max value)
Note : For 24/7 I use 980/2300 with +112mv/+40mv. VRM and memory temp are under 60c and Core temp is under 80c.

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I recently bought an MSI R7970 Lightning BE for my new pc which is an Intel 3770k on a z77 Asus Sabertooth motherboard.. I'm using a 750watt power supply on a single 12v rail.. This card does high FPS but where it is failing me is mouse movement. If you walk back/fowards/left/right the gfx card is a champ, but if you're moving forward while moving the mouse everything stutters. I've tried MSI's drivers as well as newer non-msi drivers and they all pretty much yield the same result.. The major issue I have is the same issue persists on the lowest graphics settings 800x600 with all effects off or the highest graphics settings... What sort of stuff should I be looking for to rectify an issue like this? This is truly driving me mad having just spent $500 dollars on a video card, I am pretty sure this video card should be destroying graphics.

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these youtube urls should be live in 2-3 hours:
bioshock:
bf3:
skyrim:
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corsair vengeance 1600mhz 9/9/9/24 t2 CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9 16gb 2x8gb
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Hey guys - I am hoping someone can help me out with a problem I am having with my 680 lightnings in SLI..
Basically, when playing just about any game, (BF3, FC3, even WoW) the core clock on both cards fluctuates like crazy - along with temps.
I have MSI afterburner going with a simple +100 on the cores (no over voltage) both under water - don't exceed 45C.
I have the on screen display and the core mhz on the cards keeps going from 1293 to under 900, back up to 1200 and down - and keeps doing this whether I am in graphics intensive scenes or not. The temps are also CONSTANTLY fluctuating around 39-45C... constantly moving up and down its really weird. Looking at the actual graphs, it looks like a heartbeat monitor - just without the consistency of one.
I currently have MSI 2.2.3, but the same thing happens with 2.3.0 as well. I have cleaned and reinstalled drivers (multiple ones from beta to current to past ones). Only thing I haven't done is reinstalled W7, though I don't know that going that route is going to change anything. I have tested both cards by themselves and they work great without any problems - I can actually OC them to around 1390 individually with some voltage added full stable, but when in SLI, nothing I have done seems to stop this constant fluctuation and no matter how much voltage I give them, I cannot get past a simple +100 on the core (to like 1293). This fluctuation is what I think is causing alot of the recent crashes I have experienced in game - where as I had none before.
The only thing I have done differently is that I recently switched to a Silverstone Raven 02 case. Any ideas? I have bios 80.04.09.00.F8 on both cards.
Below are my specs:
2500k @ 4.5
Maximus V Formula
8gb Corsair @ 1866mhz
SeaSonic X 850w psu
--originally posted on Overclock.net official msi gtx680 lightning owners club post #4545-- It looks like others are having these issues.

Thanks for the reply on this!
Yes, my power limit is set to max and I am under Maximum Performance in power management along with single monitor performance (no multi for me just yet).
I really don't know what it is that is causing this. If I go down to simply +100 oc, with no over voltage, I play everything pretty smoothly without much trouble, except for the CONSTANT downclocking and temp changes. Everything stays relatively smooth. I don't know why they only OC to this when in SLI, but get much much more individually - drives me nuts.

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