Re: MSI Z97 Gaming 7 + i7 4790K Lagging

I would use some monitoring programs to monitor the core clocks of both the CPU and the GPU to see if they are changing during the game and causing the drops.
Use MSI Afterburner to monitor the GPU clock and something like Coretemp or HWinfo64 to moni...

Hi Svet,
Thanks for replying. Here is my spec. I overclocked my CPU before but when it crashed with this second card, I went back to the stock speed. Still the same results: display driver recovers at 80 degrees plus. Is it normal for the card to g...

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What is the best memory kit for MSI Z97 Gaming Series with 4790K?

What is the best and most stable kit in each category?
1. 4x8Gb
2. 4x4Gb
3. 2x8Gb

Not really good idea. It's temporary usage, and instead of RAMDisk I suggest you buy SSD of SATA III or M.2 depending on what motherboard you have. Go for 16Gb, and buy 120Gb SSD, it will be more efficient. Also you won't get much difference between starting game like Battlefield 4 on SSD and RAMDisk.
Or buy 2x60Gb SSD, 1 for OS and 1 for apps so OS drivers doesn't mix together with games etc.

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 ACK problem with wifi (lag spike)

hi all,
the problem is that all is well connected to the ethernet (killer 2205).
while on wifi I have many lag spike when i play online game.
I got a laptop with similar wifi card (killer 1202) and all went good!!
so why with killer 1525 on desktop i got this lag spike? its very bad.
the network driver is the newset
my system:
windows 7 64bit
msi z97 gaming 9 ack
i7 4790k
16gb ddr3 2133mhz
msi gtx 970oc
seasonic 860 platinum

Quote from: darkhawk on 17-June-15, 18:01:01
I'd be more for RMA'ing the board.
But personally, I'm staying away from Killer Network products from now on. They are buggy and do not work very well when they don't work. Sometimes they don't work at all. Check back through these forums, and one of the biggest issues with any of the boards and/or laptops is always the Killer Networks NIC's. And there is no simple and easy fix for many of the issues.
If it was me, I'd buy a nice wireless card and use that instead. Or do the Intel mod you posted about.
I won't say that the Killer Networks device SHOULD work, but time and time again they prove to not work. In that case, I'd replace it with something that will and move on. A $40 wireless card to not spend days or weeks trying to fix the problem is money well spent in my opinion.
now im going with powerlink and all went good, but as all know, powerlink after 2 years will broke and need to replace..... but online game with eth is always better.
So im tihink to resend to AMAZON and ask for refund and ill rebuy a gaming 7 without wifi this change refund me a good 100 euro......

Choose ram for i7 4790K + MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC

My PC
i7 4790K
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC
RAM Corsair cmd8GX3M2A1600C8 2x 4gb
ASUS GTX 780 Ti DC2 OC
PSU SEASONIC p760w platinum
SSD samsung evo 250gb
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1. I saw on the web MSI, about compatible ram.
and ram that I used did not exist in the list.
whether the ram that I use is not compatible with i7 4790K + MSI Z97 gaming 9 AC ?.
2. I plan to replace my ram, but I was confused by the many choices.
---------- CMY16GX3M2A2133C11R
---------- CMY16GX3M2A2400C11A
please give me advice, where ram is better than what I use now.

Quote from: Nichrome on 29-December-14, 01:07:50
Possibly yes. But there is no real performance improvement and difference between 1333MHz (lowest DDR3 sold) and 2666MHz. 1FPS in some games, so it's not really worth $100 more, as that's common price difference between 2x8GB 1600MHz and 2x8GB 2133MHz. If you need MORE amount of memory, then yes it makes sense. But if you only want to have it "quicker" then there's no point.
MSI simply tests certain amount of kits on certain motherboard and that's it. If it works, they say it's compatible, if it doesn't, then I think they also mention that. If they don't test something, then it's not mentioned at all.
I tried to run my ram at 2133MHz. with memory try it. and I made it, but I do not change the settings laiinya.
is there any other suggestions?
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I am not looking for a FPS, but I seek the comfort of playing.

MOVED: MSI Z97 Gaming 5 and Intel Core i7 4790K

This topic has been moved to GAMING Motherboards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=181378.0

Quote from: AranelSurion on 03-July-14, 22:02:56
Speancer, what was the BIOS version yours shipped with?
I got a GAMING 5, according to MSI Support it's V1.0, since I don't have a spare LGA1150 chip I'm really curious if 4790K is going to work as it is. My build is from entirely new parts, so if somehow it fails to POST, I can't know for sure if it's because of the outdated BIOS or something else, It would be great to know if it's actually going to work or not on 1.0 .
Anybody tried 4790K with 1.0 BIOS? Does it work?
It was 1.0 Like I said, it works perfectly ouf of the box on MSI Z97 Gaming 5 with i7 4790K CPU. After installing system and most of my softwares like it was before format, I noticed that I could not enter BIOS, but system was working normally. Then I flashed BIOS from 1.0 to 1.3 in Windows and it worked again and has been working ever since.
Good luck with your new rig

MSI Z97 gaming 7 + intel i7 4790k

Hello. I bought the M/B MSI Z97 gaming 7. While I don't know what version of BIOS firmware installed. And I couldn't check it, because I only bought the motherboard. I want to buy a CPU for this motherboard - intel i7 4790k. Latest firmware version for this motherboard specified on the official website is 1.8
- Updated the VBIOS and GOP driver.
- Updated CPU Micro code to support new Intel CPU.
- Improved Asmedia SATA device compatibility.
When updating the BIOS via M-Flash, please make sure that your USB storage device is recognized as a "Removable Device",
If your USB storage device is not recognized as a "Removable Device", please update the BIOS via MSI Live update under windows.
Maybe this will turn out, that this processor (intel i7 4790k) will not work for this motherboard because of outdated firmware, and flash card is not recognized so I can't flash the BIOS or through a flash card or through Windows ?

Quote from: 964758 on 23-January-15, 22:33:17
Dear friend. Another question. How you understand about version of BIOS firmware by serial number of motherboard ? B - (means BIOS), 14 (means version 1.4) ? Do I understand correctly ? I will be waiting for your reply
NO you have that wrong and I will explain it to you:
its based off DATE! you can work out roughly what it will have shipped with by just cross-referencing the manufacture date and the BIOS release dates and which one was available at the time!
here is how you tell when it was made from MSI: S/N: 601-7916-010B1406030678 that is the date code in RED (Format YY/MM/DD) so that puts your board as made at 14/06/03 so it will have the BIOS version that was available at that time!
Nichrome has made a slight Mistake here your board actually has BIOS version 1.3 installed (>> 7916v13.zip << 2014-05-23 BIOS version) out the factory from the date code as its a early 2014 - June board towards the begging of the month (1.4 was not out till the end of the month)!
your board Will still support the chip (i7-4790k) as its got the minimum BIOS version (1.3) for that CPU for it to work out the box with it!

Crash by gaming with MSI z97 Gaming 9 AC/ MSI 980GTX

Dear MSI Form
The last couple of weeks I have a very bad crash,
This is my system:
Windows 8.1 64
Mother board: MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC
GPU: MSI GTX 980
CPU: Intel core i7 4790K 4 GHz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M
Memory: 16GB 4x4 Corsair vengeance pro
Hard disk: 2 X 1TB 1 X 1TB SSD
Power supply: Be quiet! Power Zone 650W
Case: Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper Window
Fans: 9X Be quiet! Shadow wings + Fan controller
I use my pc mostly for gaming,
I bought en build my pc on September 2015 but now and then I get a very bad crash, the crash shuts down my pc (no blue screen / no Error) just a black screen with a pc that won’t respond on anything. The lights are on at my motherboard cpu cooler and GPU, but no respond. To turn my pc on again I have to shut down the main power switch. After 10 seconds I can start up my pc again.
I get the following windows event: id 41 kernel power
Scenario:
This began when I played Dragon age 3 in December, I got the crash twice in like 100 hours. (not a big deal) than I got the same crash once when I played GTA V with 60 hours more or less. But now when I playing the Witcher 3 wild hunt I get it every 5 minutes.
What did I try to fix it but won’t work:
- Memtest run x10 no error
- Drivers up to date
- The temps under full load are great CPU they won’t go over 51 degrease / GPU 68 degrees / the rest won’t go over 45 degrees.
- I got no virus.
- Everything is connected just fine.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Kind regards,
Tijs Dragtsma from the Netherlands

May be your PSU being too weak or going bad (I doubt though). Although you have 9 fans.. maybe try disconnecting case fans and leave only CPU cooler ones to work?

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC - Intel Wireless AC 7260 module don't work

Hi,
Please help me, i started my new rig and the wi-fi module (that hard to fit in the mobo) don't even appear in device manager.
I already tried to dismount and remount the module on the motherboard with extreme care, no success.
Here is my rig:
Main Board: MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC
Bios Version: 1.4
Video Card: R9 290X
Memory: 16 Gb Corsair Vengeance 2400Mhz
Processor Intel 4790K
OC: Not yet
Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro 64
Please help me

Recheck your WiFi Bluetooth expansion module connection on the board.
Recheck your MB mounting in the case, i.e. errant standoffs. Perhaps test the board outside the case on a non conductive surface to ensure no potential short exists. Then retest with the WiFi plugged in.

DIMM 1/2 stopped working on MSI Z97 Gaming 5, help!

Hello again!
Today I was trying out a different cooler for my i7 4790K, I mounted it and everything worked fine, but results were bad, so I decided to mount previous cooler again...
And here were the problem starts. After I mounted everything back (exactly following guide like before, thermal paste etc all done) my PC would not start the system nor BIOS.
I wondered what could cause it, so just to check a possibility, I unplugged one RAM module from DIMM 2 (they used to work in dual-channel at 2/4 DIMMs) and it suddenly started BIOS and system up normally.
Following this tip, I unmounted cooler's fan, because it covers DIMM 1 to check if it would work, and doesn't matter what memory I plug in DIMM 1 or 2, it won't work Doesn't work with any combination, so I can't actually use dual-channel right now, as only DIMM 3 and 4 work at the moment (both or alone). Any module plugged in 1/2 slots doesn't work.
All I see is that temperature monitor on my MSI Z97 Gaming 5 shows 10-55, 10-55 all the time, jumpy temps, everything works, but nothing loads. Just black screen, nothing. I work with 3/4 slots in single channel right now.
What the hell could happen? Please help me with this!
Edit: Is that possible I could move a CPU from a proper pin so it doesn't connect properly with DIMM 1 and 2? My cooler moved a bit before I mounted it properly. That's only thing that comes to my mind right now.

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EXTENT OF LIMITED WARRANTY
Intel does not warrant that the Product will be free from design defects or errors known as “errata.” Current characterized errata are
available upon request. Further, this Limited Warranty does NOT cover:
any costs associated with the repair or replacement of the Product including labor, installation or other costs incurred by you, and in
particular, any costs relating to the removal or replacement of any Product that is soldered or otherwise permanently affixed to any
printed circuit board;
OR
damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or
environmental conditions, usage not in accordance with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or
improper testing;
OR
any Product which has been modified or operated outside of Intel’s publicly available specifications or where the original identification
markings (trademark or serial number) has been removed, altered or obliterated from the Product.
http://download.intel.com/support/processors/sb/warranty_procts_english.pdf
So if you have bent the pins and didn't buy the "care package" or whatever they call for improved warranty, then I believe that it is void. But read whole PDF carefully.
I might be wrong, I'm just a human. Contact Intel about this:
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/warranty

MSI Z97 GAMING 3 Review--Performance Testing

After the previous hardware and software introduction, I believe Z97 GAMING 3 will meet gamers’ expectation.
Z97 GAMING 3 integrated with Killer E2200 LAN, Audio Boost 2, M.2 interface and the normal array of connections,
It is truly a good gaming motherboard. Could all these features offer great performance and a good experience?
Today I will test the performance of Z97 GAMING 3 and how good it is.
MSI Z97 GAMING 3 Testing
My test platform is MSI Z97 GAMING 3, Intel ® Core i7-4770K and MSI GeForce GTX 750 graphics card. The test
consists of two parts:
CPU Performance: Super PI, PC Mark Vantage and Cinebench R11.5.
GAMING Performance: 3DMARK 11, Evil 6 Benchmark and FFXI Benchmark.
Test Part 1
CPU : Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.5 GHz
CPU Cooler : Thermaltake TT-8085A
Motherboard : MSI Z97 GAMING 3
RAM : Corsair DDR 3-1600 4GB X 2
PSU : Cooler Master 350W
OS : Windows 7 64 bit
Basic performance testing (CPU setting by default)
CPU Mark Score : 679.
Super PI 32M Result – 8m53.897s.
Graphics Performance Testing：3DMark 11
3DMark 11 is designed to measure PC’s performance. It makes extensive use of all the new features in DirectX 11
including Tessellation, Compute Shader and Multi-threading.
Intel ® HD4600 iGPU in 3DMark 11 Basic mode testing, the results is X385 Score.
Performance mode test score is P1511 .
System Performance：PCMark Vantage
PCMark Vantage is a PC analysis and benchmarking tool consisting of a mix of applications such as based and
synthetic tests that measure system performance.
From the test results, the score of Z97 GAMING 3 with Intel ® HD4600 iGPU is 11,946.
MSI GeForce GTX 750 Testing
Test Part 2
CPU : Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.5 GHz
CPU Cooler : Thermaltake TT-8085A
Motherboard : MSI Z97 GAMING 3
Graphics Card：MSI GeForce GTX 750
RAM : Corsair DDR 3-1600 4GB X 2
PSU : Cooler Master 350W
OS : Windows 7 64 bit
Graphics Performance Testing：3DMark 11
Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 the test scores is X1653 in 3DMark 11 basic test mode, The performance
mode test score is P5078.
System Performance：PC Mark Vantage
From the test results, Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 scores 11,518.
System Performance：Cinebench R11.5
Cinebench is the software developed by MAXON Cinema 4D. Cinebench could test CPU and GPU performance with
different processes at the same time. For the CPU part, Cinebench test the CPU performance by displaying a HD 3D
scene. For the GPU part, Cinebench test GPU performance based on OpenGL capacity.
Main Processor Performance (CPU) - The test scenario uses all of your system's processing power to render a photorealistic
3D scene. Graphics Card Performance (OpenGL) - This procedure uses a complex 3D scene depicting a car chase which
measures the performance of your graphics card in OpenGL mode.
In Cinebench R11.5 test, MSI Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 multi-core test is 6.87pts; OpenGL score is 73.48 fps.
Z97 GAMING 3 with HD 4600 and GeForce GTX 750 in the GAME Benchmark Test
For game performance testing, I will use Resident Evil 6 and FFXI Benchmark with the same platform.
Evil 6 Benchmark
CPU: Core i7-4770K
Game resolution setting: 1920X1080
Other setting: Default
In the Z97 GAMING 3 with Intel® HD4600 iGPU platform, score:1175 (Rank D)
In the Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 platform, score: 5874 (Rank A)
I use Fraps tool to record FPS status during benchmark testing.The Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 average
FPS is 202. The Z97 GAMING 3 with Intel® HD4600 iGPU average FPS is 32.
FFXIV Benchmark
CPU: Core i7-4770K
Game resolution setting: 1920X1080
Other setting: Default
The 1920X1080 resolution, Intel® HD4600 iGPU score is only 910.
However, the GeForce GTX 750 testing score is 4167. According to the official classification system, the score
between 3000 to 4499 means high performance.
I use Fraps tool to recorded FPS status during benchmark testing.
the GeForce GTX 750 average FPS is 111. Intel® HD4600 iGPU average FPS is 19.
Test Summary
MSI Z97 GAMING 3 is not very expensive. It has many features which are specially designed for gaming experience
and good performance of benchmarks. Even in 1920x1200 resolution and high quality display setting, Z97 GAMING 3
with Intel Core i7-4770K and MSI GeForce GTX 750 can easily handle any kind of games. The FPS of this system is
higher than 60 and users will enjoy no lag as gaming. It is really a good and afforadable chioce for gamers.

Thx for the sharing, since there are not much reviews about Z97 GAMING 3.

Z97 Gaming 7 w/ 4790k Terrible performance

Hello I just received and built my new system to follow. It would boot fine and load the OS. However, the response is choppy and I am getting terrible frame rates. Even just going onto the internet (regardless of browser) it is very sluggish. I know this is not the end all of checks but I ran WEI and got a 5.0 on my cpu and a 5.6 on my ram. I RMA'd both the MB and CPU and the results and actual experience was the same. Very poor. If I load a game I am getting at best 17 FPS where with my old system I was getting 60 fps. Any help would be appreciated, I feel like I bought a very expensive paperweight.
CPU = I7 4790k
Mobo = MSI Z97 Gaming 7
GPU = Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 1
Ram = 2x8 GB Kingston HyperX Fury 1833
PSU = EVGA Supernova NEX650G
Cooler = Corsair H100i
SSD = Crucial MX100 256gb

Also if anyone has a CPU/Mobo like mine and could post pictures of they're bios settings, that would be great. One thing I noticed is that my CPU core voltage is sitting at about .874 which seems low. However when I bumped this up there was no noticeable changes. That said there are a ton of settings I dont understand that could be related. A final thought. I was told by someone who looked at my system told me there may not be a enough power from the 12v rail of my PSU. I swapped out to a Corsair CX750M again with no changes to scores or practical performance. Thanks again for any help you can extend.

MSI Z97 Gaming 7 not booting up

Hi guys,
I have just purchased new motherboard & new intel core i7 4790K. I've installed everything & when I tried to boot up the system it stuck to 72 error code during post checks in manual which states as "Late South Bridge Initalization" Please help guys as I m not able to boot up the system.. My configuration is as follows:
Intel core i7 4790k
MSI Z97 Gaming 7 MoBo
Corsair XMS 3 4Gb RAM
Corsair H100i CPU cooler
Corsair CS750M PSU
NZXT Source 530 cabinet
Please help guys ....

Hi
What you can do is either:
-Return the board (RMA)
-Try to straighten it yourself using needle, magnifying glass and bright light
-Ask local jeweler if they can straighten it up for you.

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 ac startup logo windows 8.1 greater

windows 8.1 startup logo width, (MSI Z97 Gaming 9 ac + monitor LG D2343p)
I think the problem in the monitor, but when I tried it with my laptop (Windows 8.1) which is connected to the same monitor, Windows 8.1 startup logo, normal.
whether the problem is in the vga or on the motherboard?
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC
i7 4790K
ASUS GTX 780 ti dc2 OC
Corsair CMD8GX3M2A1600C8 2 X 4GB
PSU SEASONIC 760W PLATINUM
SAMSUNG SSD EVO 250GB
MONITOR LG D2343P
WINDOWS 8.1 64X

Quote from: TZBC on 17-December-14, 12:49:51
Can't see the photo you attached (it seems because it's source from asus forum )
Did you mean the blue window logo with dots circle?
Are you using UEFI win8.1 and enable the win8 feature in bios?
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I have an email into the MSI support, and I am happy,
with a service that is so fast. thank MSI.

MSI Z97 gaming 9 AC Cmedia audio.

hello i have problem with cmedia audio (i like use cmedia for my headset, beautiful sound )
but cmedia make big latecny.
is felt when I played the game FIFA 15.
then I disable c media from the device manager.
and I use Realtek, but not as good as c media voice.
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i7 4790k
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC bios 1.7
corsair 2x4GB cl8
ASUS GTX 780 TI DC 2 OC
windows 8.1

Does this happen only when playing FIFA 15?
Do you have Sound Blaster Cinema installed?
I'm sure you can find a software called "Xear....(sor I forgot)" in your computer if you had installed the cmedia driver. And there's a button shows ASIO, then you can switch audio bit depth there, can try that switch to 16 and see what happens next.

Msi z97 gaming 5 bios update help

Hello I recently purchased the msi z97 gaming 5 motherboard. It was working fine it came with bios version 1.0 and I wanted to update it. I downloaded the latest 1.5 bios from msi website copied to usb flash drive and flashed it using mflash. Computer powers on but black screen wont do nothing. I cleared cmos and battery and still nothing so I am pretty sure its bricked. I am going to store to exchange it for another one but I want to be able to safely update the bios without bricking again. I usually dont update bios unless needed but i need at least 1.2 bios to fully support the devils canyon cpu. Can someone please point me in the right direction? I read about the usb flashing tool in forum but also read that bios+me need to be flashed and I don't know if that program is up to date and will flash both files? I really appreciate it if someone helped thanks in advance.

Also does anyone know if it is dangerous to update the bios with a 4690k devils canyon cpu since it is not officially supported until 1.2? Is that why my first bios flash was bricked? I would hate to go and borrow another cpu just to update the bios but if I have to I will. Sorry for all the questions but I need to get my bios updated and I will not update it until I am sure of all these things. Thanks to anyone who answers these questions.

Re: MSI Z97 Gaming 7 + i7 4790K Lagging

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