Re-ordering smart albums creates unwanted folders

Can anyone explain why this might be happening? When I do this now (a familiar routine I've done 100s of times in the past), a new, untitled folder is created, containing the album I am attempting to move into a different location in the order.

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I am pretty certain it is not a problem with the config...here is why.
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Dale
what you experience is exactly how it works. there are other threads about the smart album "problem", with the same outcome.
the problem is not really, how smart albums are working. if a smart album is CREATED based on the entire library, it will therefore search the entire library, regardless where you move it afterwards. if you create a smartfolder within a project, it should be project-bound, regardless where you finally store it. that makes sense.
however, the problem is the changed behaviour between previous versions and 1.5.1. smart albums that were created "unlinked" (somewhere in your structure but not within a project or while the library was selected) worked fine before but show no results since 1.5.1.
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