Re: Primay IDE channel Transfer mode is set to PIO mode - Enabling DMA Stat

Hi
I have installed Xp Professional Recently on my desktop ...
My Primay IDE channel Transfer mode is set to PIO mode...even if i try to change to DME if available its not changing....
I tried a option to run a VB script to change the DMA status but no luck..
Can anyone help me know if any option is available to change the DMA status
Regards
sunny.

Hello suneel
Sorry to interrupt this discussion but I feel it goes somehow in wrong direction.
If I understand you right you just want to install WXP on your Satellite A300. Am I right about that?
On this forum you can find, I believe, hundreds of threads with precise description how to do this.
What you need is WXP installations CD with integrated SATA driver.
Check please this page . There you can find nice description how to find SATA drivers. At the end you can also find link to guide for "Slipstreaming SATA driver into WinXp boot cd using nLite".
When the WXP is installed just continue with WXp driver installation. If your notebook is WXP supported you can find them on Toshiba download page.
Hope this helps.
Good luck!

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I would like to know if anybody with this same situation was able to successfully update the optical drive's firmware or is there some way to place the optical drive on the secondary ide channel and the hard drive on primary for me to follow and replicate the process.
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Just received the solution from another forum where I posted the same problem.
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