Re -Reconcillation of subcontracting challan against "102" mov type mat doc

Dear All,
While we are doing the reconcilliation of the Material document (mov type-"102" ) against the subcontracting challan (ALREADY fully reconcilled against 101 material document, but not compeleted), then system is NOT allowing us to do the reconcillation, requirement is to reduce the qty assignment in already reconcilled challan, as we have reversed the material document
1.) When we have assigned the 102 movement type to movement type group to 0001( Issue movement type group)
then system is giving an error message : 8I567-Challan not valid, Material doc. is valid for another scenario during J1IFQ.
2.) and when we are assigning the 102 movement type to movement type group 0002( Receipt movement type group) , then system gives error message : 8I574 -Material XXX is not assigned fully, short by YYY KG
Please suggest the right way of doing it.
Thanks & Regards
Nitin Chhabra

Hi
If a challan is reconciled it should not be opened again. That is illegal. You need to do subsequent adjustment if you want to alter your consumption in subcontract. If you do 102 and reverse your consumed material,You need to include 544 movement type in your movement type grouping then You need to create a new 45a challan.
Regards
Antony

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Dear Alex,
Thank you so much for the information
I've checked the note given by you, 1282074 this is only relevant for Amount type 0300 or it will rectify the error w.r.t amount type 0500 (Adjusted by Followon Document)
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