Re-using planning objects

Hi SDN friends,
I have an existing implementation configured.
Now, there is a need to customise the loading for new companies.
So, this means existing solution implemented already must not be changed.
I think I will base on existing solution.
Is it possible to create another set of bps customizing based on the existing solution and using the same planning objects? But existing customizing must not be changed or touched.
for example, can i create another planning area using the same planning objects under existing planning area?
Please advise me, thanks.
Regards
Sanjay

Dear,
if you want to create new one then solution given by Vlad Stulikov is good.
If you want to used existing objects only and only for reporting purpose, somewhere else, you can go for multiplanning are.
hope this will help you.
Regards
Vinay

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