Real basic---Library not dividing into film rolls

My wife is starting to use iPhoto. She still shoots film and has gotten pics on CDs which she imported into iPhoto. They aren't showing up in Library as separate rolls the way mine do. The pics just keep being added to the Library without any divisions. It's like they're all just going into one big bucket.
We tried selecting some pics in Library then using the Create New Roll command, but it doesn't respond create a separate roll or divide the Library in any way.
Is there something real basic that we're mIssing? I didn't have any difficulty with this when I started using iPhoto and can't seem to find any Help references to it. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Jim:
Have your wife go into the View menu and select Film Rolls. That should do it.
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Will Not Display by Film Roll

I can't figure this out: When I am on the "library" selection, I used
to see a display of all the film rolls, listed separately. Now all I get is a scroll of photos with no indication of what film roll they are on.
How do I set the view so I can view the photos grouped by film rolls?

Hi Bill,
Actually the same thing happened to me under different circumstances.
I was dragging a group of five images to a keyword in the keyword panel.
I dropped them on the keyword and in front of my eyes the library images were shifting. (I have my view set to rolls). When I was done being shocked I discovered all my images were in one roll. This was not acceptable to me as I really like my dated roll organization.
I had recently done a backup so I dragged out the messed up library and dragged my backup into the Pictures folder.
I no longer use that keyword panel for keywords. I use the "get info" pop over window to keyword my images.
I really don't know what your iPhoto Library looks like in the Finder. If you can navigate there and tell me if your images are still in their dated folders, I can tell you what to do from there.
This is a view of how the iPhoto Library looks in the Finder.
It is organized by Year folders. Inside the Year folders are Month folders. Inside the Month folders are the days of the Month. Inside the day folders are the photos you took on that day. If you imported video clips and RAW files on that day they will be in an Originals folder. If you have edited any photo imported on that day, the original will be in that folder also.
If your images are still in their dated rolls in the Finder, then you can get those rolls back, but will lose Albums, keywords, slideshow...basically everything , but you will get your roll organization back.
You would follow the instructions on Page 2 for the "add to the library" method.
iPhoto Help
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Orphaned photos (whole film rolls) not found

After a pretty bad crash (whole computer hung), forced restart, a lot of applications have lost their preferences and/or other settings files. For example Mail behaved like on its first run, asking me if I wanted to learn about new features, inbox was empty, but fortunately I could restore com.apple.mail.plist and all was fine.
iPhoto was a little bit more difficult though. First it presented me with an entirely empty library, no folders, nothing, just as if I had started iPhoto on a new computer for the first time. I quit iPhoto and restored "com.apple.iphoto.plist", "AlbumData.xml" and "Library6.iPhoto" from a backup. Then I ran iPhoto again... hurray, everything was the way it used to be... last week. But the photos I had imported since then (about 500) were nowhere to be seen.
Then I learned about iPhoto's feature for recovering orphaned photos. I launched with a bunch of modifier keys pressed, got the dialog, and rebuilt everything (thumbs, database, look for orphaned photos,...). Result: the orphaned photos were still missing. I suspect iPhoto will only find orphaned photos in folders (film rolls) it already knows about, not entire orphaned film rolls.
I located the photos in the FInder ("Filmrol 201" through "Filmrol 230") and tried copying them to the iPhoto window, hoping they would be added in. Nope, iPhoto actually complains it cannot add them to the library because... the files are located inside the library folder?!
I tried screwing with the "AlbumData.xml" file to add entries about the missing rolls, but that did not seem to help, and the entried were simply removed on the next run of iPhoto.
The only possibility seems to be moving the photos to a different location, then importing them into iPhoto from there (which actually makes a new copy of every file). Or maybe I will just import one photo to create a new film roll, then move all the other photos into that film roll folder, then let iPhoto look for orphaned photos.
Any other ideas? What would be the best, cleanest and safest way of making these orphans re-appear?
Also, does anyone know what exactly caused the preferences and other files to be corrupted like that in the first place? Just about any app that was open at the time of the crash, has lost its preferences and sometimes other files completely. I've heard of the same problem happening to other people too. It would be really nice if apps like Mail and iPhoto would keep backups of critical files. I am using FileVault, by the way.
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(pretty seasoned Mac user and programmer, so don't feel afraid to send difficult details and procedures)
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Michel
Or can iPhoto "know about" a picture but not display it in the library? That doesn't seem to make sense.
It's for when something has gone wrong, but the first condition is that the pic must have been imported.
In your situation, following the restoring to the earlier db file, these pics were not imported, iPhoto did not know about them, they were not orphans.
iPhoto NEVER looks for photos anywhere. It simply reads it's database. If the file isn't in the database, then , as far as iPhoto is concerned, the file doesn't exist. The ONLY way iPhoto can be introduced to iPhoto is by importing it. Simply having files in folders won't work. Period.
At the very least, the description of the checkbox is misleading.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html
As for not importing pics that are in the iPhoto Library folder being a "sensible precaution", well, if these are photos that are not currently included in iPhoto's database, I think it should import them (by updating its library file, obviously not by making new duplicates of the files). But I guess I'm just being too logical now
See the link above.
However, if you read this forum you'll see that when issues arise the inexperienced user will try to re-import the iPhoto Library Folder to iPhoto, on the basis that the pics are "lost". If iPhoto did allow this you'd get libraries populated with thumbnails treated as full sized pics, plus, multiple copies of the fullsized pics on a rather common basis. Personally, I think that's sensible.
Regards
TD

Creating film rolls does not seem possible?!?

I am trying to organise my iPhoto library by creating new film rolls but it appears that it will not let me do it. I select the photos that I want in the new film roll and then click <file> but "create new film roll" is still light grey and therefore not a selectable option. Anyone any clue what I am doing wrong?
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Ben

Additionally make sure you are in the main Library and not an album. You can't create new rolls from within albums.
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Film rolls are missing

One of my iPhoto libraries has film rolls missing and rebuilding thumbs and database did not help. I can see the original photos in the iPhoto library on the hard drive though, so I would not want to reimport. Is there a way to show the film rolls again without re-importing?
Thanks,

Since the original photos are still in the iPhoto
library, (even if I drag the folder to the desktop),
how do I avoid having a second set of the same photos
when I re-import them into that iPhoto library? Can I
select Preferences-Advanced and tick NOT import
photos into iPhoto library? In this way, it will give
me an alias pointing back to the existing library,
give me my film rolls back, but no dupes?
After dragging to the desktop it is necessary to go in iPhoto and delete the remains from there. I was going on the assumption (correct me if I am wrong) that the photos from the missing rolls have either thumbnails or empty boxes in the iPhoto window. Delete them in iPhoto, then empty iPhoto trash before you reimport. Otherwise, iPhoto won't recreate their thumbnails and the reimport will not work.
I don't believe that creating an alias will help, because it won't fix the link that has been broken. Plus, it will add more confusion to your library.
Thank you all for your help. Thing is that I
understand that they will have to be re-imported if
the rolls are missing, but WHY are the rolls missing?
I don't know. It usually results from user activity in the iPhoto library folder from within Finder. The simple act of renaming a roll's folder in Finder will cause iPhoto to be unable to access all of the files stores inside that roll. If you haven't done that, then it's a mystery. [I had gremlins that rearranged my files during my upgrade from iPhoto 5 to iPhoto 6. Modified files traded places with Originals, some files were missing from Originals but present in Modified-it was weird. I used this method to sort everything out and haven't had a problem since the upgrade.]
I use iPhoto Buddy to select my iPhoto libraries (I
have about 10 libraries) and one of those libraries
was corrupted (due to overloaded photobook I think),
but the iPhoto library in question, that I was not
using, has film rolls missing when I opened the
library. (I'm afraid this is going to get contagious
and affect my other iphoto libraries too!)
I haven't seen other reports of iPhoto Buddy breaking connections like this, but I don't use it so I can't really speculate. I would expect to see lots of complaints if this happened very frequently at all.
For the future, keep a current backup of the Library6.iPhoto file for each of your libraries. It is located inside the iPhoto library folder; Duplicate it in Finder and move the copy. This is the database file which contains the metadata about albums, rolls, keywords, etc. If your database fails in the future you can simply replace this file with the backup to restore your library. I take this advice from Old Toad and backup the file every time I close iPhoto.

Please Help, Devistated! iPhoto Library not all there

I'd appreciate any help with this:
I had over 4000 pictures in my library. I just uploaded quite a few more. They were all there. I went to do a backup and it for some reason wasn't working (thought nothing). When I re-opened iPhoto, I first only had 250 photos, so I exited, now when I open it, I only have 43.
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Cody
If the rebuild suggested by Smtr doesn't work, then you have a corrupted database file. You pics are safe: just go to your Pictures Folder -> iPhoto Library Folder -> Originals and in there you'll see your Roll Folders. They contain your pics.
Do you have an up-to-date back up? If so, try copy the library6.iphoto file from the back up to the iPhoto Library Folder allowing it to overwrite the damaged file. If not, then you'll need to create and populate a new library.
To create and populate a new library:
Note this will give you a working library with the same film rolls and pictures as before, however, you will lose your albums, keywords, books, calendars etc.
Move the iPhoto Library Folder to the desktop
Launch iPhoto. It will ask if you wish to create a new Library. Say Yes.
Go into the iPhoto Library Folder on your desktop and find the Originals folder. From the Originals folder drag the individual rolls to the iPhoto Window and it will recreate them in the new library.
When you're sure all is well you can delete the iPhoto Library Folder on your desktop.
In the future, in addition to your usual back up routine, you might like to make a copy of the library6.iPhoto file whenever you have made changes to the library as protection against database corruption.
Regards
TD

Create Film Roll - greyed out

I wish to create some Film Rolls, to better organize my photos....
As the title indicates the option under File 'Create Film Roll' is greyed out.
As extra info:
I have checked that all ticks are set under Library, no entry in the search box bottom right, and no filter bottom left.
I have recently imported the files, when I first swapped from WindowsXP, and they weren't put into film rolls which I would like to do now!

orchis
Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
To create a film roll you must be in the Full library
and
Have at least one pic selected.
Every pic in your Library is in a Roll, they have to be. Rolls in the iPhoto Window (View -> Film Rolls) correspond exactly with the Roll Folders in the Originals Folder in the iPhoto Library Folder.
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TD

Cannot View by Film Roll

I have been going through 5 years of photos updating titles keywords etc. All of a sudden, I cannot view by film roll. It is as if my entire library is one single film roll.
Have checked preferences and set view and sort to film roll. Nothing.
Any ideas?

Debra:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. When you selected that option did you have any photos selected? You can only get that option when you're in the main library and have one or more thumbnails selected. If you had all of the library selected then you'd end up with just one roll for the entire library.
A new folder is created in the originals folder, and the photos appear in my "last roll" - but the new film roll itself does not appear listed as a film roll. (the view by film roll option is grayed out)
Make sure you've clicked on the Library icon in the Source pane. The View Rolls option is not available unless you're in the main libary.
If you're only seeing 1 large image in the window check the slider at the bottom right of the iPhoto window and see if it's all the way to the right. If it is, move it back to where the thumbnails are smaller.
Go to the View menu and make sure that View Rolls is selected. If it is and you only have the new rolls that you created since the incident and one other, that's it. I don't know what you can do to regain your rolls.
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So you might still have your rolls. You just have to get back to the main library, reduce the size of the thumbnail with the slider and go from there.
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Possible to not use film rolls?

I don't have many pictures, and have about as many film rolls as pictures! I want all my iphoto library to be stored in one location (i know I can create a new film roll and place all pics there), BUT, I also want all future imported pics to simply drop into the same file. How do I accomplish this?

But when I go to upload them to say a website or dropbox, i have to go in and out of the rolls to find the pic i want
No you don't. In fact you should never enter the iPhoto Library Folder. There are no user serviceable parts there. Just use one of the many ways that iPhoto supplies to access the files. All of them are a: faster and b: safer than rooting around in the folders.
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*For Users of 10.5 and later*
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*For users of 10.4 and later* ...
Many internet sites such as Flickr and SmugMug have plug-ins for accessing the iPhoto Library. If the site you want to use doesn’t then some, one or any of these will also work:
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If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
*If you want to access the files with iPhoto not running*:
For users of 10.6 and later:
You can download a free Services component from MacOSXAutomation which will give you access to the iPhoto Library from your Services Menu. Using the Services Preference Pane you can even create a keyboard shortcut for it.
For Users of 10.4 and later:
Create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use this free utility Karelia iMedia Browser
Other options include:
1. *Drag and Drop*: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.
2. *File -> Export*: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.
3. *Show File*: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.
Regards
TD

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"View Film Rolls" is not Highlighted.... how can I get to it? (iPhoto 6)

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Since you're using the term Rolls you must be running iPhoto 6 or earlier. For future problems be sure you post in the iPhoto 6 or forum.
For this problem the View File rolls will only Be sure you're clicked on the Library. That menu item is not available in an album or other item. If you have clicked the library icon first and it's still grayed out close iPhoto, delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder and then try again.
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Belated thanks to those who helped me create new film rolls (in August!) Your advice was accurate, but my source library shows no film rolls except 'last roll'(although there are many rolls shown on the hard disk). When I create a new selection of photos in a new film roll it simply makes that selection 'last roll' and I can't rename it.

Yes, Film Rolls are very flexible. You can drag selected photo(s) into another roll. Don't release the mouse until the roll header is highlighted, and then the photos will drop into that roll. Command-click to add photos to your selection; that's the easiest way to select photos from different rolls at once. When they are selected, drag any one of them to the header of the roll to which you want them added. Or make your selection and do File > Create Film Roll to bring them into a new roll.
Film Rolls only list chronologically, in ascending or descending order. So if you'd like to tweak the order of your rolls a bit, you can edit the film roll date. It's independent from the dates of the photos, so it doesn't hurt anything to change it.
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I'm suffering from the iphoto slow problem and have been trying to find a way to stop iphoto from loading all the photos every time.
My photos are arranged in folders, so I don't seem to have the option to stop the photos being loaded by film roll.
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I'm not sure what that means. Whether you have albums or not, iPhoto still considers a single import batch as a roll. If the rolls are not collapsed, then everytime you launch iPhoto, it assumes you want to be able to see your entire library, and it goes about the job of making all the thumbnails available.

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