Real Life SATA-PCI speed of PowerMac G4s

I see people on the web talking about what super speeds they get from their SATA Drives hooked up to SATA-PCI-Cards (Sonnet, Firmtek, Acard, doesn't matter) in their G4s.
Since I only get 33-39MB/s depending on what drive I use, I suspect they just use benchmark tools or I am an idiot. (copying from one drive to another both hanging on the same PCI-Card).
Please, can someone use a real file and copy it manually from one SATA-Drive to another and use a "stop watch" and calculate the file size through the time elapsed in seconds.
It does not matter, if I use a file of 5GB, 20GB or files of 800GB. No matter which SATA-PCI card I use (have kept me a Sonnet and a Macally). No matter if both are installed or just one.
Would really appreciate your help.

@ all:
First thank you, all! You make me confident, that it is not me making a mistake somewhere (I can't imagine what mistake anyway since it is plug and play. But people elsewhere like to point out, that the user is the biggest source of mistakes).
What I ask myself again is:
why then, are people claiming that they get 100MB/s speeds on the same PowerMac G4 Sawtooth ("AGP", with 100MHz-BUS)? I trust Japamac, that he did do tests, but what really comes to mind is, that it must be the benchmark utilities (Quickbench and ALA) making people think they have 100MB/s speeds on a theoretical SATA-150MB connection.
Btw. I have tried the 500MHz stock CPU, a Sonnet 7447 2x1,8GHz and a Sonnet 1x1,2GHz 7455, I could see that the 500MHz CPU is overal 5MB slower, when processing large files. 5MB is not siginficant, I know.
I am not saying, that a Dual 1,8GHz is making everything different and neglecting what you said, when you just transfer files and I see that the CPU is somehow oversized on a 100MHz FSB. Of course people swear their Upgrade CPUs do much. I guess they really roll out their advantages in let's say converting DV-files to another format. (I plan to test this the next weeks btw., also watching power consumption).
Thank you again. I hope Japamac says something on the topic, since he still posses his Sawtooth G4 and maybe he can reperform his test with a real file (other than "virtual" benchmarking). A pitty that there is no message function on this forum.
PS: on RAM usage, other than music authoring software and photoshop, RAM doesn't seem to be that big of a deal on a PowerMac. I watched activity monitor, while converting an iMovie-file to h.264 (took like 8 hours with the Dual 1,8GHz), the RAM was never filled over 512MB and I have 2GB installed. OS X is very nice to RAM, too it seems.

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(click to enlarge)
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That's a good thought that could explain some cases, but not mine: these people definitely don't know my email address, and I'm not in their Address Book. (Some of these are people I might meet on a hike, say, and nod to in passing on other hikes once a or twice a year, and that's the extent of the "relationship"--no contact info ever exchanged. We don't even know what cities each other are from.)
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I've been trying to grok the concept for a while, not without a modicum of success. Yet the big picture escapes me. I'm interested primarily in electronic document workflow as a substitute for classic paper document workflow. There must be software frameworks serving the concept, protocols of higher level than gpg, industry standards - something like that. Links and keywords are extremely welcome. It's hard to start googling effectively without a keyword or two.

Maybe how citizenship smartcards work and are used in real life is of interest? Belgium eletronic identity cards and Portuguese citizenship cards support that.
The involved standarts are something like pkcs11, pkcs10, etc. If you understand the way private and public assimetric keys work you will understand the process at high level. From there it's all details on how to actually sign something how to and where get and store the keys, etc.
For example, the portuguese card has 2 pairs of private / public keys. One of them for authenticity purposes and the other pair for signing. It also contains the certificates that form the chain of trust and allow to verify the keys are still valid.
Having a smartcard reader and obviously one of those cards you can just plug it in the laptop, create a document, like a pdf file or even a word file in the office and choose to sign it. Now for example if you sign a pdf file, the person that receives it can just open and it magically says if the signature is valid or not. It does this by magic also .
Ok, not everything is magic. When you sign the document in the process yoru certificate file that contains your public key is attached to it, then when the document is opened it will check the cryptographic signature of the file. Aditional verifications will be done for example in adobe reader, like checking the signature timestamp with an online service and also checking the certificates chain of trust.
But i'm kind sleppy and may be saying something stupid. Someone else can correct me and add more information
Last edited by Diaz (2013-12-19 07:28:06)

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