Really regretting the Z77a-GD65

Guys i have 4 7950s running on all the 1X slots with risers (the risers are not powered)
and every so many hours the whole system just freezes - (no it does not do me the favor of restarting )
i'm running CGminer and it pushes the cards to pretty much full power . but they are not overheating average degree is 70 to 75 .
now listen to what expense i have gone to try to slove this issue with this board ! 
I have TWO maxrevo 1500W PSUs (about $500 a piece) , one is jumped to work and run ONLY the 4 cards.
the other runs ONLY the motherboard.
I then went and today and purchased $100 worth of 8GB of Ripjaw 2100 Ram.
becasue in my hardware experience and actual freze of a system can be RAM related.
did it all help ?
nope not really.
have gone to the latest bios , have tried heaps of diff drivers and AMD SDK .
changed the PCIe subsystem latency .
you know what , I could handle if this board just restarted,  as i have regedited the Run to start everything and also bypassed the win error.
but no . it just freezes randomly .
it has to be a PCIe bus error or something ?
edit ** yeah i picked the wrong board - not MSI fault - any suggestion on a board with 6x full size PCIe (don't mind if i have to jump the 1x slot ) want to stick with MSI 

Quote from: RemusM on 27-May-13, 04:27:17
The CPU controlls them all, but this is not important now.
We have to deal with a few thousand configs every year and all kind of customers.
But this guy is a "rara avis".
Please tell me who buys a Z77A-GD65 mainboard, a G620 processor, 2 x 1500W PSUs ( ) and 4 x HD7950 (PCI-E x16 used in x1 slots)?
Unbelievable!
what is unbelievable is how dimly you seem to understand the situation - ? the PSU's will be used on other setups , i only used two to eliminate the possibility that the freezing was caused from a voltage issue related to the drawing out of the PCie - (as I'm not using powered risers)
further more your misunderstand in has extended to missing the frequent amount of time i explained that both CPU and Bandwidth between the Pcie and Card is not utilized.
 the other guys seemed to understand , but you don't ?

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