Realtime Playing of Guitar Rig thru Logic: FW800 interface?

Hi , it would simplify my life so much to be able to play my N.I. Guitar Rig thru logic as a plugin. I'm about to get the G5 Quad and am wondering about the metric halo 2882(which is FW 400) or the fireface 800. is there a better chance of ultra-low latency thru FW 800 ? I've read that people are playing in realtime through logic , a drummer i spoke with said he's plying the BFD plugin in realtime, so that seems pretty promising, but will i be able to do that with a firewire interface? i have Motu 2408 now but i'm selling it to switch to the quad.

I use GuitarRig all the time and have no latency issues using a Fireface 800. Both the Fireface and the 2882/ULN2 have great and fast converters so there shouldn't be much difference there. However, drivers are the most important. RME's drivers are excellent and the actual hardware does its own metering calculations so you have realtime results in the RME mixer and the host CPU doesn't have to any extra background processing for the driver. I would assume that MH hardware/drivers operate the same way.
One thing to clarify, though, is that you can sum hardware inputs into the DAW mixer using RME's mixer. It's probably a less intuitive process compared to the MH mixer, but it's functionality still resides in RME's TotalMix software.
90% of my sessions are recorded at 24/48 and I usually use a 128 sample buffer without noticeable latency. I've even tried 256 and didn't find it noticeable either. For comparison, I perceive the same amount of latency (which is pretty negligable) when playing through AmpFarm on PT HD Accel, and GuitarRig through the Fireface 800 with a 128 sample buffer (both sessions @ 24/48)
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