Rearranging to the PMS colors in PS6

This change is driving me bonkers, completly unnessasary and has added so much confusion. Is there a way I can have my PMS color arranged how they were in all previous versions of PS or at least add a search bar like AI has?

There is no search bar in Photoshop, it is always on. Try typing some number, and your selection should advance. In the example below I typed 172.
Do you have the type in the red box?

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Figuring out the PMS colors

I have a logo that I would like to have made into a sticker by a printing company and they are offering either to print it with their 36 stock ink colors at no additional charge or with custom PMS ink matching for $30.00 per color.
1. How do you determine if the colors being used will work with the 36 colors they have available? Is there a way to do this?
2. How do I figure out what the PMS colors are for the ones in my logo?
Thanks!

1.) Most of the "sticker" print vendors will have their inhouse spot color ( like the 36 you mentioned ). But, your standard logo has only 2-3 colors ( i.e., FedEx, UPS, Xerox, IBM, etc., etc. ). If however, your logo uses more than 3 and they are process color builds, then color matching may depend on their ability to match a specific Pantone Spot color ( which they are charging $30. for a custom ink mix ). If your logo is constructed using 4c process inks, they may be better off printing your logo using 4 process colors ( C-M-Y-K ).
They should have a color chart that shows the 36 colors available for no charge. You should print your logo and try to visually match your color to their color. For instance, to simplify it, lets say your logo consists of two colors similar to a MasterCard logo of Red + Orange. Just a hypothetical. You could go to your local printer and have a hard copy proof printed and then it's just a matter of matching your Red to one of their Reds, your Orange to one of their Oranges. If you can't access their 36 colors, it will make this process much harder and/or they may not have a Red or Orange that is close to your Red and Orange. Then, they will have to use a custom mix ( $$$ ).
2.) You could find the pantone Spot color match from your local printer. Some of them have special lightboxes where they can visually match your Red + Orange to specific Pantone Spot color swatch book. You should be there to help find the color you think matches the closest. You could also contact the originator of your logo file and see if they have the colors. There is a way to find the Spot color using Photoshop if you have it available.

How do I update my PMS color swatches within Adobe CC 2014 to the latest PMS colors?

I have the latest version of CC, and the PMS color swatches I'm trying to see on my computer are not there (They are in the printed version of the PMS Color Bridge book). There's a lot missing. For example PMS 2002 C.

According to what I see at this Google search link, I think you need to obtain what you want from Pantone

How do I replace 2 pantone colors with 2 new pantone colors globally? I have a 2 PMS logo with many tint variations in it . When I replace PMS in Swatches pallette. The logo does not globally replace the selected color. es

I have a 2-PMS color logo with many tints in it of the 2 colors. When I replace the swatches in the logo to new colors, they convert from Book Color to CMYK. Can the printer work with that? How can I kee it a 2-color separation?
MaryFl

This is what I understand. You have a logo in a document that uses PMS 'A' and PMS 'B' colors and you want to change to colors PMS 'C' and PMS 'D'. If this is correct there are different ways to do this, but here is a traditional way:
Make sure Select Same Tint is turned OFF in the Preferences. And all objects are unlocked in the document.
Get the two PMS (C and D) in the document's Swatches Panel.
Select PMS 'A' and bring the 'Fill' box in focus.
From the Select menu choose Same > Fill Color.
Click on PMS 'C' in Swatches panel to replace all PMS 'A' fills with PMS 'C'.
Deselect all.
Again select PMS 'A' and this time bring 'Stroke' box in focus.
From the Select menu choose Same > Stroke Color.
Click on PMS 'C' in Swatches panel to replace all PMS 'A' strokes with PMS 'C'.
Deselect all.
Similarly using the same approach replace PMS 'B' wit PMS 'D'.
If you have CS3 / CS4 and the PMS colors in the logo are easily identifiable, you can use Live Color to change the colors pretty easily.
Hope this helps!
- Neeraj
New Note: If there are gradients / blends that use these PMS colors the above approach would not work, but Live Color can.

2 files with exact the same PMS color look different

I was working on a print project for my company and all files are created in Illustrator CC. Here is the confusing part, in this logo color file I found from the company inside files, the PMS color code actually matches the CMYK color code, and they look exactly the same on screen:
But on all the files I'm working on, the PMS color looks washed, when using the convert button to convert PMS to CMYK, the code looks different too:
Is there a file color setting I need to change? Besides illustrator, the PMS color in Photoshop cc and InDesign cc all look wash out.

The Color Mode of the swatch only impacts how the the color appears on your monitor. The important thing is that the Color Type always be "Spot Color" regardless of the Color Mode when you're dealing with files for print. If it's set to Spot Color, then exporting the file to film will have a single color pass. If it's set to Process Color you'll get 1-4 color passes when exporting depending on your CMYK values.
For the company's branding guide, you have both color options depending on how the logo will be printed. If you had something that included a photo, then you would want to use the CMYK version of the logo because you're already going to have CMYK values from the photo. Using an additional spot color just for the logo then makes it a 5-color job, thus increasing the cost. If you were printing something that only used black for text and also included the logo, then you would use the PMS version as this makes it a 2-color print job.
In some circumstances you don't have an option of a CMYK break of a PMS color, such as metallics and fluorescents. Some companies only print their logo in a spot color despite having it as part of a 4-color print just due to how a CMYK version of their logo appears. Not every PMS color has a 100% accurate CMYK break. Most frequently the CMYK version is dull compared to the PMS color simply because the gamut for CMYK is not as diverse as the full range of PMS colors are.

Why are my PMS colors different in CS3 & CS6?

I originally created a label in CS3, and just had to make a new one a different size. When I did the new art in CS6, the PMS colors are way different! I basically copied and pasted the old art into the new file. I have replaced all PMS colors, but they still do not match the old version. What's up?? Can anyone shed some light on this? The original version (in CS3) is on the left and the new art in CS6 is on the right. Thanks!

Thanks Monika, but, OMG, I feel a headache coming on! =( So, is it better to stay with the new Pantone Plus colors, or convert to the older version? How will this effect reprinting of jobs, if the client makes changes and I resave the file in CS6? Will the color be different now, if saved in the Pantone Plus? Maybe I need to do more reading up on this!

PMS color changes to CMYK when file is closed and reopened

I got a .psb-document with a adjustmentlayer>solid color as a background. The color is a Pantone 354-C. When I save my document (CMYK), and then reopen it, I no longer get the Pantone color library but the default color picker box. I see no visible change in color though so I'm not sure if the color changes. If I click the color library button in my adjustment layer, it automatically pics the PMS color beneth the 354-C (that is 355 C) and I see a change in color. So I have to repick 354-C again.
Anyone knows what's going on here?

Spot Colors have no real connection to individual Layers in Photoshop (as of CS6).
If you want to use them you need to employ Spot Channels.
Edit: And your intended color is probably simply out of gamut for that color space.

Deleting unused PMS color

I can't seem to get rid of a PMS color. I've tried exporting the document to IDML and opening it, selecting all Unused colors and deleting, going through all of the styles to make sure it's not in there, checking all imported graphics to make sure it's not in there— nothing gets rid of the PMS color.

Hi,
could you inform us, on which version of InDesign you are using?
With which version was this document created initially?
I ask, because I remember an issue, but very long ago, which did not allow to delete spot colors, even if the document was empty. But this should not be an issue with versions later than CS3.
If the spot color was imported by some kind of EPS or PDF files, you are not able to delete it in the document, nor to do so in the EPS or PDF file unless you have Illustrator and these files were created in Illustrator. (Or you have Freehand and these files were created in Freehand, same with other drawing applications.) Opening these kind in a different editor might cause damage.
In these circumstances you could use the ink manager (you find it in the Swatch Panel Menu) and target the spot colors, all or some selected, to process color or to a different spot color.

We are creating templated pdf's for Buscards? How do you create so fillable is in pms color Ripping

We are creating templated PDF's for our new web to print software. How do you create the fillable pdf so that when ripped it will separte the pms colors? Our designers say that the fillable text can only be in black and can't be in a pms color?
Thanks
Paul

I see. It's true that form fields do not support spot colors. I know you can flatten form fields, converting the field text to regular text, and embed the fonts using Preflight. What I don't know is if you can then convert the font color to spot (maybe using Advanced > Print Production > Convert Colors), but it's worth looking into.

Find PMS colors

Can anyone tell me how to find the PMS color of artwork that's already created?
Thanks so much!

Cassidy,
click on Eyedropper. Click on the foreground icon (square):
Color Picker. Choose Color Libraries. Open Pantone Coated.
Click with Eyedropper on color in image. The nearest Pantone
Coated Spot will be indicated.
I'm sure the description can be improved, but perhaps it
helps already.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

PMS colors show as CMYK when using Device N

I have just upgraded to the CS3 Suite recently and am trying to send a PDF through the system using Device N. I use Quark Xpress 6.5 (haven't been able to talk the boss into converting to InDesign yet) and so when I have a project that uses PMS colors, of course I choose Device n when I create the PDF. When I send the PDF through, the PMS colors have separated into CMYK. I use the Creo Distiller Assistant that's supposed to help with color seps. We've got a computer to plate system so this really creates havoc with our impositioner. This version is Acrobat 8 Professional. I was using Acrobat 7 Pro and it worked fine with the Creo distiller assistant and all. Can someone tell me what's going on?

I checking the colors 1st in illustrator, than in indesign with separations preview (so far so good), and then in acrobat with output preview... and here is where it goes wrong... both for certified as well as uncertified.
I have now found the problem, but am unsure how to deal with it in the future (color management hell) : something to do with our synchronized profiles that basically say: adjust to match current color settings, placed content:keep existing assignments. I don't know how clear this is? If iI disable the profile so I can override the existing assignment (which must have originally been to preserve appearance rather than numbers) it all works out.
I suppose it is an internal agency issue as to what to do. The idea is too stick synchronised as to provide consistent color, but there all these hidden profiles stuck in files from who knows who, when or where.
If you can follow, and have any suggestions,?

PMS-colored .ai-file becomes process

I have two separate InDesign CS5-documents that have the same Illustrator CS5 .ai-file placed in them. One of the documents honors the PMS color but the other one turns it to process color. I´ve heard there might be trouble with .ai-files so I saved it to eps but with the same result. I guess it´s got to have something to do with InDesign basic color presets but I can´t see that they are different in the two documents. Where´s the catch?

Do you have an identically named process color in your InDesign file? If so, delete it or rename it.
Bob

Cannot find the new pms colors Pantone + solid coated

I have a Pantone + Solid coated book that has 336 new colors in the back. Specifically pms 2028 C. The problem is when I try to find it in the PMS charts in Illi CS6 or PS CS6, those 336 new colors are not in my Pantone + Solid coated charts. I ran the adobe updates and it updated what it needed but I'm still unable to find it. Am I looking in the wrong chart? The name matches that of my PMS book so it just doesn't make sense. I scroll through the Illi chart and also try to use the "find" section. Any help is greatly appriciated. thanks Kyle

PMS 2028 (and the list you describe) are not in the current Pantone lists in Illustrator CC (or earlier AI versions).
But you can make a spot color of your own choosing, and call it whatever you want (such as Pantone 2028). You may need to fake or guess on the actual color (in RGB or CMYK), but if you're separating for an actual (non-digital) printing press, your faked color won't make any difference, as the proper ink formulation for your spot color is what actually goes on the paper when it is printed.
If you're not separating for a traditional printing press, then what is the point of needing a specific Pantone color? Other than being used for ink formulations on a (non-digital) printing press, Pantone is an old, useless model, attempting to extend its relevance beyond the pull-date by forming software alliances with such as Adobe, etc.
For non-traditional printing, rather, develop the colors you want according to your specific output device, be it a photo printer, CMYK digital press, etc. -- If you really "like" PMS 2028, then develop that color (probably in RGB/HSB) for your specific output device.
Lastly, if you are printing to an actual printing press, and also need the 2028 color in your pre-press (digital) proofs, then you will need to develop it for your proofer (your specific non-press output device), probably with the caveat to your client that it is a color "approximation." Then use any spot color (titled, "Pantone 2028") for separations, as the actual ink will provde accurate color.

Hello, Is there a script that I can change all the colors of a layer in to 1 PMS color, unite every object and than give it an offset of -0,2 mm ?

Hello,
Is there a script that I can change all the colors of a layer in to 1 PMS color, unite every object and than give it an offset of -0,2 mm ?

the offset has to be semi-automatic, apply an Offset Path Effect (by hand), create a Graphic Style out of it (by hand), then the script can apply this graphic style to objects.

With new Mac OS 10.9 cannot print photos the same colors as my screen in PS6 what can I do

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Rearranging to the PMS colors in PS6

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