Rebate Agreement Query

Dear Gurus,
I have a customer XYZ, which have sales area 1000-10-10 and also extended on 1000-10-20 division, rebate check is mark on both the extended sales areas.
My material 40000000 is associated with division 20.
When I generate the agreement it ask me the sales area I enter there 1000-10-10, although material is associated with division 20, and create a record with material 40000000 with accural rate 5%.
I notice that when i generate the invoice system call the rebate agreement condition type. that is fine and acceptable to me.
But i just have the query that why system ask me the sales area at starting of rebate agreement and if I enter different sales area that not associated with the material, than standard system performs the rebate ? as yes it perform.. is it standard functionality..
Looking forward for the gurus response.
Regards,

Hi
Maybe I can give you a standard example that will help clarify this for you.
You create a 0003 rebate in sales area 0001 01 00
The rebate condition assigned to the agreement type is Bo03
When you save the agreement the system writes this condition record
into table KOTE003 with the key Bo03 0001 01 01 customer and agreement number
with validity dates.
If you then create a sales document (without requirement 024) you will see in
the pricing analysis how all the conditions were found and the values that
were used to find them. The division is taken from the document header not
the item in standard. So if I have a valid agreement in sales area 0001 01 01
and I create a sales order in header sales area 0001 01 00. There will be no rebate
condition found in the document. If you go to the pricing analysis to the rebate
condition you will see that the system was trying to find a condition record for Bo03
in table KOTE003 with 0001 01 00 (from the sales order) but the valid entry is in
0001 01 01.
In your case if the condition is found in the KOTE* table it is because you have
an entry in the table for that combination otherwise you would get message
'Condition record is missing' against your condition in VA01
Hope this helps you further
Kind regards
Brian

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2) Setting Up Rebates
3) Managing rebate agreeeements and payments
Pre-requsiistes- Check the following:
1.The payer partner needs toi have the rebate field checked in the customer master on the sales area-billing doc tab.
2.The Billing type must be marked as relevant for rebates.
3.The Sales Organisation must be marked as relevant for rebates.
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Rebates, use the condition technique, but distinguish themselves from pricing in applying to transactions over time, versus on a transaction basis. Rebates have their wn field catalog and their own condition table naming convention.So you could have two condition table "001" one for pricing and one for rebates, which could have different key fields. You need to use the technical names A001 For pricing and KOTe001 for rebates when you use the query type using transaction SE 16..
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