Rebate Agreement reversal

We have created a rebate agreement and settlement has been made. Subsequently we have created another agreement and run vbof. We have stopped last month and this month we had run the vbof again. Its because of this invoice 2 invoices on 10th april posted on 30.06.2014 and 2 invoices on 01.07.2014. We wanted to reverse this on the corresponding month. How to do this.

Hi Jo Jo,
I had implemented Rebate in my company and had similar problem.
After doing Trial & Error on Sales Volume & Verification level screen I found:
In Sales Volume :
After u201CPayu201D of Accruals, remaining value comes. If the credit note created is not passed to A/C, the value does not get reduced. Also, unless the Invoice/Billing Doc. is passed to A/c. the value here shows 0 (ZERO)
Items that show accruals of 0 are invoice line items that applied retroactively. Since the rebate agreement did not exist when they were created, no accrual could be made.
In Verification level:
Total accruals, document and item wise come.
So the difference may be due to some of the docs that are not passed to Accounting or may be due to retroactive agreement.
Hope it adds value to your question.
Regards,
Tushar Karwa

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Proposal:
Setup your rebate condition as amount = 0 and accruals = $
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I did a few rebate projects in FMCG and it is standard practice to send credit memo to the rebate recipient: The Customer (Payer in SAP).
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Is it due to there are some open billing documents related to the payer of the agreement?
If yes:
I have checked there is a billing document (cancel of credit memo) not yet released to account, which created half a year before.
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So as the system is giving error , just run VBOX to update the old documents
As you said that there are open documents then just either reverse those documents and then do final settlement or just forward it to FI those open documents
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find some notes on rebates.
in the billing document, the rebates are calculated as per the the accrual rates in rebates condition records. My question if the invoice is for Rs 100 and accrual rebate amt in invoice is rs 2. will the customer pay Rs 98 against this invoice of full Rs 100.
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Edited by: madhu tatikonda on Oct 8, 2008 10:33 PM

Assume that we want to give a customer a 3% discount on everything he or she buys. In addition, we will give away another 1% discount if the customer reaches a certain amount of gross sales for the year, for a specific group of products. The 3% is a discount which will be given on every invoice and the net value of the document is reduced to that extent. The 1% is a rebate which will be be given at the end of the year only if the target sales are achieved for th year. This 1% condition will be a statistical condition in the invoice and the net value of the document will not be reduced.
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Check the below white paper on rebates which gives you good knowledge on Rebates.
http://www.erpgenie.com/publications/saptips/052005.pdf
Check the page 29 below is the text from it.
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