Rebate process impact

Hi Gurus,
We are introducing the rebate process newly for a company code in which other business process already implemented 3 years back. My worry is introducing the new rebate process will have any impact on the existing business processes or what are the steps that needs to be taken care before we go live. Can you please guide me on this.
Also one more thing presently for calcualting rebates they are using some other custom transactions.
Now by introducing the Rebates the existing process will be deactivated.
Regards,
Babs

Rebate processing is vary normal it will never impact your current business process.
In this we are making provision of some amount and once target is achieve by customer will pay that amount to that customer
Keep in mind all new conduction, new access sequence u have to create, provision g/l account to create,
Sageer

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Hello friends,
Normally at the end of the rebate settlement process, we end up creating a Credit note for the customer.
I would like to know the process/settings in the rebate processing in which , if we have to issue the <b>debit note</b> to the customer, what would be steps involved.
What impact would be on accounting documents? Pl.Help with detail information.
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THAT MEANS ACCURALS YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IN NEGATIVE AND OTHER SETTINGS MAY BR SUFFICIANT

Re: Rebate Process with Debit Note

Hello friends,
Normally at the end of the rebate settlement process, we end up creating a Credit note for the customer.
I would like to know the process/settings in the rebate processing in which , if we have to issue the debit note to the customer, what would be steps involved.
What impact would be on accounting documents? Pl.Help with detail information.
Thanks
Julie

Hi
I feel in real time this process may not applicable, rebate process nothing but a kind of discount, which avail to the customer in the future.
Discount can account as accural in SAP and will be given the at the end of the contract period either by credit or by material.
Reward if it helps
Regards
Prasanna R

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New Cancellation procedure deactivation in India.
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M

Dear Manisha,
Rebate Process Trouble Shooting.
Refer OSS note 75778
New Cancellation Procedure for Excise Invoice in India.
Refer OSS note 551932
New Cancellation procedure deactivation in India.
Refer OSS note 339928
Free Goods Quantity Proble.
Refer OSS note 629679
New Pricing Rule based on the business scenarios
Refer OSS note 24832
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Rakesh

Purchase Rebate Process with Vendor - Material Group combination in SAP

Hi Guru's,
I have done with Purchase Rebate Process with Material in SAP by doing following steps,
Created Agreement Type with Material Rebate
Created Rebate Pricing Procedure
Created Schema Group, Vendor
Maintained Purchase Rebate Agreement via MEB1 and created a Purchase Order where I could able to view the Rebate condition type gets determined based on the rebate agreement which has been created for a specific material.
Now from experts I would like to know the Volume based rebate arrangements Purchase Rebate Process with Vendor - Material Group combination in SAP .
If required provide with detail steps explaining what configuration and master data to be in place to complete this process.
Following thread I got it from SCN.SAP forum,
http://scn.sap.com/thread/3663225
Where it has been discussed this type of requirement Purchase Rebate Process with Vendor - Material Group combination would be a GAP.
Kindly throw some ideas on this process to carryout from my end.
Regards,
Kumar.S

Experts,
Please respond if post is not clear then let me know.
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Can u tell me waht r the steps involved in rebate processing

hi guru's this is suresh.advanced thanks for all gurus

Rebates Processs in SAP is divided into three components
1) Configuring Rebates
2) Setting Up Rebates
3) Managing rebate agreeeements and payments
Pre-requsiistes- Check the following:
1.The payer partner needs toi have the rebate field checked in the customer master on the sales area-billing doc tab.
2.The Billing type must be marked as relevant for rebates.
3.The Sales Organisation must be marked as relevant for rebates.
Condition Technique :
Rebates, use the condition technique, but distinguish themselves from pricing in applying to transactions over time, versus on a transaction basis. Rebates have their wn field catalog and their own condition table naming convention.So you could have two condition table "001" one for pricing and one for rebates, which could have different key fields. You need to use the technical names A001 For pricing and KOTe001 for rebates when you use the query type using transaction SE 16..
Use create access sequence (AS). Enter 1 in field category for rebate specific. AS after going thru the right path of maintaining access sequence for rebates.
The big difference between the rebate and the pricing access sequence is that there is no exclsuion flag available for rebate related AS. This means multiple tables for an access sequence can be aplied at the same time.
Rebate related condition types are identified by codnition class -C.
After defining and creating condition types for rebated include them in the pricing proceedure. The requirement should be 24 here which implies that the accruals are calculated on the basis of invoice/bill.
The other fields- alctyp and altcbv does not allow you to manipulate how a rebate is calculated. Also, remove the requiremnt 24, if u want to see reabtes at order time.
Now payment of rebates:
Payments can be maunal or in full settlement. When you do manual payments, it defines how much can be paid out during a partial settlemetn. You use partial settlement only when rebate agreement is defined for a full year but the paoyouts are supposed to happen on a monthly, quarterly or anyother specified period.
These accurals are based on sales volume and when they are posted billing is created int eh follwoing manner. Provision for accruals is debited and Sales revenue is credited. When rebate credit memo is created
Customer account/ is debited and
Accrual provision account is credited.
Also, please note that when rebates are created without dependent ona material but on customer/material you need to refer to a material for settlement.
With Compliment: Srini
I have this same problem found in:
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/rebate-process-with-ref-to-so.htm
However, can somebody explain it as I have problem in understanding the link.
What exactly do you wish to know in Rebates? The total outline of the Rebate process or each and every step in the SAP system?
First of all rebates are more or less discounts which are offered to customers. The rebates are based on the volume of the business the customer does with you within a specified time. for eg if the customer agrees for Rs.1 Crore worth of business with u in 1 year, then you activate your rebate porocess. if at the end of the year the customer DOES achieve the target u offer him say 2/3/4 % whatever is decided. The rebates are passed on to the customer in the form of Credit notes.
The rebate can be given to the customer at one time or in installments also.
This is broadly the outline of the rebate process.
R.Sreeram
Note : I recomend you to study the theory part of why rebate and why not a discount.
This will help you understand better.
May be I can help you with rebate process.(IN -IMG)
1. define a rebate agreement type
2. define a condition type group
3. define a condition type and place this condition
Type in the pricing procedure.(REQUIREMENT=24)
ALSO IN THE PROCEDURE- ACCRUAL KEY = ERU
YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO THE ACCOUNT DETERMINATION FOR REBATES.
Once you have defined all the 3 and assignment starts.
Assign the agreement type to the condition type group
Assign the cond type group to the condition type.
Condition technique is also used in rebates.
REBATE ACTIVATION- IN CUSTOMER MASTER, SALES ORGANISATION AND FOR THE BILLING DOCUMENT.
After having done this please proceed to maintain the condition record for the rebates (transaction code-vbo1)
Note: if you maintain the requirement coloumn with the requirement as 24 - the rebate will be affected in the billing document and if you dont give the requirement as 24 your rebate will be affected in the sales order.
The rebate process is completed when you have created a credit memo to the customer.
The document type for the partial settlement is R3.
Please make sure you open two screens SO THAT YOU CAN COMPARE THE NEW ENTRIES WHAT EVER YOU'RE DEFINING WITH THAT OF THE STANDARDS or first you try with the standard condition type boo1, boo2
boo3 boo4.
AFTER YOU HAVE FINISHED A COMPLETE SALES CYCLE OF CREATION ORDER , DELIVERY AND BILLING.
GO TO THE CONDITION RECORD IN CHANGE MODE (VB02) AND SETTLE THE ACCOUNT PARTIALLY.
I hope this will be of any help to you.
Praveen
In a simple way,
1. First you need to create a Rebate agreement.
2. Create condition record for rebate giving the rebate rate and accrual rate.
3. when the rebate relevent billing doc is generated, the rebate and accruals are determined and posted in a seperate GL account as a noted item - amount to be settled. Also it gets copied in the rebate agreement.
4. create settlement run using credit memo request and then credit memo to settle this amount with the customer.
Source : SAP-IMG

Issue on Indirect Sales Rebate Processing

Hi Gurus,
I am working on Indirect Sales Rebate Processing in ECC 6.0, I got Struck at Updating of Indirect Sales info structure S961 at Transaction RBT_ENH_GEN where in background Billing Documents has to be generated, which is not happenning.
As this in High Priority, please someone help me in this regard.
Will be appreciated for an Immediate reponse.
Thanks in Advance
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Hi Leo,
The scenario with coupons / points is managed in SAP CRM and is part of Loyalty Management:
/people/bhushan.khadpe/blog/2008/11/13/sap-crm-70-loyalty-management-high-volume-execution
I am sorry to say that the indirect sales rebate, extended or not, will not solve your need.
Indirect rebates are used to credit distributors based on sales done on third-party customers (the customers of the distributors). These sales will be registered in SAP using a "pendulum list" and indirect rebate agreement give credit based on indirect sales volume (these are proforma billing documents generated from the pendulum list data).
My understanding is that any company that wants to manage coupons / points natively in the SAP ERP has to program this functionality itself in the ERP or to interface SAP ERP with a specialized external application.
SAP recommended solution is to implement SAP CRM, but IMHO that is an overkill for many medium size companies.
I wish there would be a way to implement specific CRM functions natively in SAP ERP, like Trade Promotion Management or Points Management, so the Customer could stick with a single ERP / CRM system
Best Regards,
Franck

Probel on rebates processing

hi all
curentlly i am working on rebates...
i did all necessary configurations setting to rebates processing ,,
i did below steps
cerqating rebate aggrement type like 0002.
*condition technique concept for rebate processing .
*a/c det for rebates processing.
*activation of rebates processing.
*maintain condition records. in VBO1.
After this steps i raise a sales order for sold to party. and done the business process up to 4 times.. then i want see the rebate settlement..
so for that i go for vbo2 and clicked on valume icon, and checked verfication levels..and just came to back and clicked on manual rebate icon ..in that wea\ are maintain the patial settlement..
here to i didn't found the next step how to go?? pls any one help me if you have any document pls mail me at [email protected]

Please take a look at point 3 in the OSS Note 821267
<b>3. File Locking</b>
Q: Does the File Sender Adapter honor if another process has locked a file for exclusive use?
A: Unfortunately, the J2EE 1.3 technology the File Adapter is built upon does not support file locking. This limitation affects the File Adapter's operation. Depending on whether the JRE implementation for the operating system under which the adapter runs uses mandatory file locking or advisory file locking, opening a file that is currently being written to by another process will fail or not.
If opening the file fails, no problem exists and the adapter will try to open the file each poll interval until it succeeds.
However, if opening the file is not prevented by the operating system, the adapter starts to process the file although it is still being modified. Since SP11 of the component XI 3.0 ADAPTER FRAMEWORK CORE there is a parameter named "Msecs to Wait Before Modification Check" in the advanced settings of the File Sender channel configuration to work around this issue. This setting causes the File Adapter to wait a certain time after reading, but before sending a file to the Adapter Engine. If the file has been modified (which is basically determined by comparing the size of the read data with the current file size of the input file) after the configured interval has elapsed, the adapter aborts the processing of the file and tries to process the file again after the retry interval has elapsed.

Extended Rebate Processing-Pendelum List Indirect Sales

Hello Experts,
I find myself with the following requirement.
Situation:
-       Bonus/rebate payouts are currently conducted to end customers via third party tools.
-       These end customers are not served by the company directly, instead goods are sold by some agents.
-       The agents buy from the company, therefore the sales process to the end customer is not reflected in the company ERP.
-       End customers are not created as customers in company ERP systems.
Requirements:
-       Solution required to automize bonus/rebate payouts to end customers based on delivered sales revenues by the agents.
Conclusions:
-        COPA EHP functionality for extended rebate processing to be analyzed if suitable for this requirement.
I have been doing some searching and came across the “Pendulum List Indirect Sales”
“The Pendelum List Indirect Sales component is an enhancement of Extended Rebate Processing. The pendulum list enables you to process indirect sales. The Pendulum List component provides tools for automatic data import.”
Extended Rebate Processing is integrated in SAP Profitability Analysis (CO-PA). SAP Profitability Analysis supports the article-specific update of the “customer rebate”
Ref-http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/5a/5b9b3c0f4da40ee10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
The above statements seem to fit my requirement but I am not able to find any further literature on the topic which explains in detail how it actually works. Most of the prior SDN topics are also unanswered or partially answered.
I would really appreciate it if some one could help me understand how this works and <Text removed by Moderator.>, that would be really great.
Thanks and Regards
ES
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Message was edited by: Jyoti Prakash

Thanks Arun.
I understand now that to have the extended rebate functionality we have to activate the generic Business Function- EA-ISSE (Industry specific sales enhancement).
I am more interested in the Indirect sales functionality for which I understand we have to use the Pendulum List Indirect Sales component.
I have a situation where I am a producer and I have wholesalers who have end customers. The end customers may or may not belong to a corporation(an umberalla organization) .
I want to set rebates on the sales of the end customers. The sales details of the end customer would be given to me (producer) by the wholesaler. But the rebate payments, I (the producer) want to pay it out to the Wholesaler ( I understand the standard solution is to pay out to the end customer) with details of each end user rebates.
Do you have any pointers to how this could be acheived?

Purchase rebate process pricing procedure RM5001 missing in ECC6.0 EHP4

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Thanks&Regards,
Chand

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Rebate Processing - Value Difference -Verfication level and Sales Volume

Dear All ,
We are using standard rebate process - Customer Rebates and we have encountered the following issue .
1. The Rebate agreement was created on 01/12/2010 with validity from 01/12/2001 , valid through 31/03/2010.The Rebate recipient was not activated for Rebate in the month of DEC 2009 and was activated on 15/01/2010 . We have executed VBOF and found that the Accruals are calculated from 15/01/2010 till date which is 25,010 USD ( for the invoices which are created from 15/01/2010) but it is not taken into consideration of the invoices which are created in the month of December 2009.
We have checked and calculated manually the accruals which is amounting to 35,575 USD for the period ( 01/12/2009 to 14/01/2010) . This accrual amount is not updated for the agreement .
Can any one give inputs on this issue.
Thanks in advance .
Regards
Veera
Edited by: veera PV on Mar 6, 2010 11:07 AM
Dear All ,
I have executed the VBOF couple of times and the sales volume is updated correctly now - 51,277.20 USD . but when i selected the agreement and clicked on verfication level it is not showing up all the invoices and the value shown is 43,025.10 USD . There is difference of 8252.10.
Now the issue is how do i get all the invoices in the verfication level.
Can any one give inputs on this .
Thanks in advance to all of you.
Regards
Veera
Edited by: veera PV on Mar 6, 2010 11:08 AM

Hello,
please check this thred Re: VBOF Issue related to updating Old Invoices after activating Rebate Check.
Best regards,
Ivano.

Rebate processing conditions

I am evaluating implementing rebate processing at my company. I would like to know if rebate processing has any capability for the following...
Customer X has a rebate program for 1% if they purchase 50,000 units of a group of materials.
In order to be eligble for the 1% on the 50,000, Customer X's purchases must include at least 3000 units of a specific material.
Any way to do this inside of one rebate agreement? My thought is you could set up one agreeement for 47000 not including the specific material and another for 3000 units for the specific material. If the rebate agreement for the 3000 units is met, then decide to settle the one for the 47000?
This is a common program we want to be able to address through rebate processing so i want to ensure it is feasible.
thx

You can achieve this by Material Rebate based on Group of Materials.
A rebate group consists of materials to which you want to apply the same rebate. You can define rebate group in Customizing for Sales according to the need of the orgn. You can assign a material to a rebate group in the MMR: view- Sales, field- Rebate Grp. When you create a cond record, you must enter a settlement material.
Hope this can assist you.
Thanks & Regards
JP

Rebate process in Materials Management

Hi Experts,
I want to know the rebate process in Materials Management.Can somebdy help me with this or provide if any documents available.
We have a scenario that we have ana agreement with vendor that if we buy quantity of say 1000pcs in year he will provide us discount of 5%.
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Charudatta

Hi
The below link will help you
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/fd/45c1089d6411d189b60000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Extended Rebate Processing - Data flow in tables

Hi Gurus,
Can somebody help me understand how data flows through various tables in extended rebate processing. i.e. once a new condition record for a rebate agreement is created, in which table it is updated first? Once VBOF is executed, which are the tables taken as reference and which are the ones updated on execution.
Please explain wrt all concerned tables and info-structures like KONA,KONV,KONH,KONP,S136 & S469.
It'll be a great help if somebody could explain thoroughly.
Thanks & Regards.

Thanks Arun.
I understand now that to have the extended rebate functionality we have to activate the generic Business Function- EA-ISSE (Industry specific sales enhancement).
I am more interested in the Indirect sales functionality for which I understand we have to use the Pendulum List Indirect Sales component.
I have a situation where I am a producer and I have wholesalers who have end customers. The end customers may or may not belong to a corporation(an umberalla organization) .
I want to set rebates on the sales of the end customers. The sales details of the end customer would be given to me (producer) by the wholesaler. But the rebate payments, I (the producer) want to pay it out to the Wholesaler ( I understand the standard solution is to pay out to the end customer) with details of each end user rebates.
Do you have any pointers to how this could be acheived?

Extended Rebate Processing

Hi All,
Extended Rebate Processing functionality does not provide functionality to generate an advance payment (= partial settlement) for any amount from the rebate agreement.
We will need to be able to create a partial payment at the beginning of the period, without Accruals being created.
Within Extended (Periodic) Rebate Processing this is not possible; however this is possible within the classic rebate processing.
It should be possible to have the PAY button available again in the Rebate Agreement. This will allow the users to create an advance payment from the Extended Rebate Agreement.
Please let me know how to activate this.
Regards
Rajesh

Hi,
Go through the link below you will find configuration and function of extended rebate processing.
http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/HTML/G64_BB_EN_US.htm
click on configuration guide link on Right, on the link given.
Hope this help.

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