Recognizing external production costs for production order

Hi Experts,
Our company is new to SAP and one issue we have not resolved is whether it is possible to attach costs to an Inspection Plan, and ultimately have these costs flow with the production order to Cost of Goods Sold (COGS).
The objective is to enable us to analyze which specific customers/products require us to incur these additional costs. Any advice you have to accomplice our objective would be appreciated.
We are a Process Industry, and many materials are sent out for external testing. These costs are significant and some customers and/or products require more testing. We currently have Inspection Plans set up for each Material that requires testing, but have not found a way to burden the material with the appropriate COGS for the external testing.
For example, if a product must be tested for the following characteristics, and each test cost is known, how do we get the test costs attached to the production order for the total of $200?
Product 1 Inspection Plan
Salmonella $70
EColi $59
Coliform $25
Yeast/Mold $46
Thank you!

Richard,
Are you able to advise which forum is the proper one for this question?
Thank you,
Esther

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Hi Christian,
please refer to SAP Note 584791: <a href="https://websmp208.sap-ag.de/~form/handler?_APP=01100107900000000342&_EVENT=REDIR&_NNUM=0000584791&nlang=E">BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders</a>.
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Note 584791 - BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders
Symptom
In R/3, costs are posted directly to sales orders. The costs have to be analyzed in the BW system. In the standard system, however, this data is not extracted into the BW system.
Other terms
0CO_OM_OPA_1; 0CO_OM_OPA_6
Solution
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plz send me product costing by sales order configuration steps.
sir, i know manufacturing order configuration step but i do not sales order configuration.
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Please send me the Configuration document for make to sales order.We are at Blue print stage need some docment for make to sales order.Plese send me the document it will will be very help full for me.
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My client is manufacturing Energy Meters, they want Sales order based Production Planning and costing etc.,
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Dear ,
When I run MRP, the system will create planned order and PR, the system will check the availablie qty which are in the stores or not for the planned order
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B -
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Please tell me the process in product costing by sales order.
In my client place, i have done the configuration but i dont know the process.
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Thanks & Regards,
AR

Hi,
Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
When you are manufacturing in-house with reference to a sales order in complex make-to-order production
When you are purchasing customer-specific trading goods with reference to a sales order and reselling them to your customers
When you are providing services whose costs are assigned to a sales order
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1. Please tell me all the configuration steps to do product costing by sale order.
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3. Please explain me the end user part also.
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Hi,
Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
When you are manufacturing in-house with reference to a sales order in complex make-to-order production
When you are purchasing customer-specific trading goods with reference to a sales order and reselling them to your customers
When you are providing services whose costs are assigned to a sales order
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HI,
Is there any extractor that pulls the Product Costs by Sales Orders?
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OR* entries from the COSB, COSS tables but not the
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Technically, to run PP without using product cost planning would cause a lot of problems during business process of production order. Because, once a production order is created then the data structured is freezed in the PO and if there is any missing data it will cause errors. Any errors in production order would stop the following transactions. We never know what would be the error level of the production order. The worst case, the production or should be cancel and start it all over again.
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