Recommend me a Mac GPU for Premiere
We're running a couple of 2010 Mac Pro's at work. They've been good workhorses but I'm looking into a mid-life upgrade to give them some extra pep. Current specs are:
2 x 2.4Ghz Quad-Core Xeon CPUs
32GB RAM
1 TB 7200 rpm system drive, 2 TB supporting conform drive
Radeon 5770 1GB GPU
OSX 10.9.2
A system SSD is the obvious place to start the update, so I'm looking at a 480/500GB Crucial or Samsung SSD. The other obvious bottleneck is the GPU. The 5770 was a great card in its time (I'm still running one in my PC at home) but struggles somewhat now in Premiere. A local Mac store suggested a Quadro 4000 is the only option for about AUD$850 but there must be alternatives. Can anyone recommend any cards that would a) be compatible with a 2010 gen Mac Pro and b) play nicely with Premiere/AE?
I am happily running a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 in my 2008 Dual Quad Core Mac Pro w/10.8.5
Purchased on eBay, just the base card (no extra cores or memory)
If you go the eBay route make sure it's Mac compatible
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GPU for Premiere Pro CC, Geforce GTX 760?
Hello!
I am looking into purchasing a new GPU for running Premiere Pro CC and After Effects CC. I have gone over the lists of approved GPUs for each software, and I noticed that the Geforce GTX 760 is an approved card for After Effects, but not Premiere Pro. I was wondering if anyone could explain the performance issues I might encounter using the GTX 760 with Premiere Pro? From what I have read, it seems that the Mercury Playback Engine will have to run off of the CPU if an improved GPU is not installed in the computer. Is that indeed the case? And if not, are there other features in Premiere Pro that might not work well with the GTX 760?
Thanks!Adobe's approved list virtually always lags behind hardware releases due to the time it takes to test/certify new cards
My understanding is that PPro CC will use that card without problems -
I need to know the certified GPU card for AE GPU-accelerate,because your System requirements about After Effects was not written clearly.And I still don't understand why the certified GPU for premiere and AE is not same??
CC 14 gives you the option of trying an unsupported card and it works just fine for the new Macs. I have two brand new ones with NVIDIA cards and they are working perfectly. The only published list is in the System Requirements.
The following NVIDIA GPUs are supported in After Effects CS6.
Mac:
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GT 650M*
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 4000
It's a starting point, but with the move to supporting the Mercury playback engine it makes a lot more sense to look at the PPro System requirements when picking a card for AE.
From the PPro System Requirements page.
Supported AMD and NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration
Windows CUDA:
GeForce GT 650M
GeForce GT 750M
GeForce GT 755M
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 470
GeForce GTX 570
GeForce GTX 580
GeForce GTX 675MX
GeForce GTX 680
GeForce GTX 680MX
GeForce GTX 690
GeForce GTX 770
GeForce GTX 775M
GeForce GTX 780
GeForce GTX 780M
GeForce GTX TITAN
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 3700M
Quadro FX 3800
Quadro FX 3800M
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro FX 5800
Quadro 2000
Quadro 2000D
Quadro 2000M
Quadro 3000M
Quadro 4000
Quadro 4000M
Quadro 5000
Quadro 5000M
Quadro 5010M
Quadro 6000
Quadro K1100M
Quadro K2000
Quadro K2100M
Quadro K2000M
Quadro K3000M
Quadro K4000
Quadro K4100M
Quadro K4000M
Quadro K5000
Quadro K5000M
Quadro K6000
Tesla C2050
Tesla C2070
Tesla C2075
Tesla M2050
Tesla M2070
Tesla K10
Mac CUDA:
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 675MX
GeForce GTX 680
GeForce GTX 680MX
GeForce GT 650M
GeForce GT 750M
GeForce GT 755M
GeForce GTX 775M
GeForce GTX 780M
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 4000
Quadro K5000
Windows OpenCL:
AMD Radeon HD 6650M
AMD Radeon HD 6730M
AMD Radeon HD 6750
AMD Radeon HD 6750M
AMD Radeon HD 6770
AMD Radeon HD 6770M
AMD Radeon HD 6950
AMD Radeon HD 6970
AMD Radeon HD 7510M
AMD Radeon HD 7530M
AMD Radeon HD 7550M
AMD Radeon HD 7570
AMD Radeon HD 7570M
AMD Radeon HD 7590M
AMD Radeon HD 7610M
AMD Radeon HD 7630M
AMD Radeon HD 7650M
AMD Radeon HD 7670
AMD Radeon HD 7670M
AMD Radeon HD 7690M
AMD Radeon HD 7730M
AMD Radeon HD 7750
AMD Radeon HD 7750M
AMD Radeon HD 7770
AMD Radeon HD 7770M
AMD Radeon HD 7850
AMD Radeon HD 7850M
AMD Radeon HD 7870
AMD Radeon HD 7970M
AMD Radeon HD 7950
AMD Radeon HD 7970
AMD Radeon HD 8470
AMD Radeon HD 8550M
AMD Radeon HD 8570
AMD Radeon HD 8570M
AMD Radeon HD 8670
AMD Radeon HD 8670M
AMD Radeon HD 8690M
AMD Radeon HD 8730M
AMD Radeon HD 8740
AMD Radeon HD 8750M
AMD Radeon HD 8760
AMD Radeon HD 8770M
AMD Radeon HD 8790M
AMD Radeon HD 8870
AMD Radeon HD 8950
AMD Radeon HD 8970
AMD Radeon HD 7480D
AMD Radeon HD 7540D
AMD Radeon HD 7560D
AMD Radeon HD 7660D
AMD Radeon R7
AMD Radeon R9 290
AMD FirePro M2000
AMD FirePro V3900
AMD FirePro M4000
AMD FirePro V4900
AMD FirePro W5000
AMD FirePro V5900
AMD FirePro M5950
AMD FirePro M6000
AMD FirePro S7000
AMD FirePro W7000
AMD FirePro V7900
AMD FirePro W8000
AMD FirePro S9000
AMD FirePro W9000
AMD FirePro S10000
Intel Iris Graphics 5100
Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200
Mac OpenCL:
ATI Radeon HD 6750M
ATI Radeon HD 6770M
AMD Radeon HD 7950
AMD Radeon HD FirePro D300
AMD Radeon HD FirePro D500
AMD Radeon HD FirePro D700
GeForce GT 650M
GeForce GT 750M
GeForce GT 755M
GeForce GTX 675MX
GeForce GTX 680
GeForce GTX 680MX
GeForce GTX 775M
GeForce GTX 780M
Quadro K5000
Intel Iris Graphics 5100
Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200 -
GPU Acceleration Cards For Premiere Pro CS5
Hello:
I am ready to invest in a GPU accelerated graphics card that will speed up playback and use the Mercury Playback Engine in GPU mode.
From what I could find on the Adobe site, these are the cards that are supported for Premiere Pro CS5
Supported NVIDIA video cards for GPU acceleration (CS5):
GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and Mac OS)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
Quadro 4000 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro 5000 (Windows)
Quadro 5000M (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
Quadro CX
Can anyone give me a recommendation from your own experience? Is the list of cards above still valid?
Thanks,
Rich LocusSo... before I go out and spend $650 on a GeForce GTX 680, it is this simple to make it work in CS5?
Yes.
(1) Make sure the card has at least 1GB of VRAM (which the GTX 680 has).
(2) Edit the cuda_supported_cards.txt to add one line: GeForce GTX 680 (starting in column 1)
(3) Install the card?
Do step 3 before step 2.
Also, you can simply delete the cuda_supported_cards.txt file
and achieve the same result.
Will Premiere Pro recognize that I have the card and immediately take advantage of the GPU capabilities, or do I have to change options?
You will need to specify:
"MPE GPU Acceleration" in your Project Settings:
If you do not have a supported card (or have not applied the hack),
this option will be greyed out. -
Mac vs. PC for Premiere Pro CC with a budget of...
$3300.00 ... That's what I'm budgeting.
Warning:
I know any post of Mac vs. PC can spark a lively debate and I sense much of this forum's base are PC users but hopefully I'll get some honest and sound advice/purchase options.
Purpose:
I'm a current Mac user not wanting really to go back to PC but I'm about to make a purchase so I wanna be open to the idea if it's gonna make life better for me while editing. As crazy/stupid as it sounds...my fear of returning to the PC world is mostly because of my memory of the years of having to deal with the need for Virus Protection on a PC. I have bad memories from having to renew/pay for that every year and it slowing things down and ultimately my last PC was infected and crashed. But my editing is what I do 6 days a week on this computer for work. I used to be a FCP user so Macs made sense but now I'm all in on Premiere Pro CC so maybe a PC would be best...or maybe I should just stay with Mac. Who knows?! Bottom line: I use Premiere, Audition, Encore and Photoshop with 90% of it on Premiere (using basic cuts, cross dissolves, extensive use of Warp Stabilizer, and the occasional gaussian blur). I also use this computer to go online. That's about it. Mostly.
Current State:
I have a 2011 iMac with a 27" screen. Love that size. It has 3.4 GHz i7, 16GB 1333 RAM, AMD 6970M 1GB VRAM GPU, 120GB SSD (OWC 6G) running the OS and apps, and I also have a Elite Pro Dual eSata HDD + Thunderbolt adapter (RAID 0) from MacSales.com that I currently use as my scratch drive.
Option #1:
I was just about to purchase the newest iMac with most of the upgrades for what would be $3300. The upcoming 2013 Mac Pro looks nice and I love the idea of being able to upgrade as I go, but it doesn't come with a screen and I can't necessarily afford it when you add that in. Plus it doesn't come out for a couple months and honestly I have a great offer in right now on my iMac that I'm about to sell.
The iMac I was intending to get as soon as next week was:
2013 iMac with the 27" Screen
3.5 GHz Quad-Core Intel i7 ("Turboboost" up to 3.9 GHz)
1TB "Fusion" Drive (Apple's 120 SSD + 1TB HDD mix)
32 GB of 1600 MHz RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M (4GB VRAM)
4 USB 3.0 Ports
2 Thunderbolt Ports
PRICE: $3300 (about)
Option #2:
A PC of some sort that's upgradable going forward and optimized for what I use it for primarily (see underlined and bold above). I truly have been out of the PC world sooo long and I know that each "side" has their advantages. I love Mac but I'm just wanting to get the best machine for Premiere for my budget. I've been a loyal mac user for years but I'm no fan boy (eg. I happily own a Galaxy S3 by choice) I was excited to get the newest iMac released just a couple weeks ago but then tonight I saw this site (http://pcpartpicker.com/) and started thinking about my options.
I will be selling my 2011 iMac to help pay for the new one so I can't keep this one. That money has factored into my budget. It's been great but I feel like it drags and hangs with MPE enabled sometimes so I figured a newer computer would help.
Also...SSD. I have read great things from various posts about the Samsung 840 Pro SSD's so I may pick one or two up eventually to supplement or replace my current scratch drive.
I'd love someone to toss out if I should go option #1 or if there's a better Option #2 out there.
Thanks!cc_merchant wrote:
1. You don't need a separate audio card, audio is included on the motherboard.
2. Do you need wifi on the motherboard? Then look at the P9X79 DeLuxe.
Re: #1) Done! No idea about that.
Re: #2) Again, no idea. You tell me, do I need wifi on the motherboard or not? And I don't see that DeLuxe option. I'm just picking things that sound nice outside of what you had for your "Low-End Warrior Setup". I'd honestly rather you tell me what works and what doesn't because again, I have almost no idea here.
Like I said before, I totally guessed on the type of RAM (brand? 1600 vs 1866? etc), the Case (all I knew was to get a Full Tower), the OS (8 vs 8.1 vs. 32bit vs 64bit), and the monitor (comparible to iMac's 27" monitor?) and other things like sound cards and wireless network adapters (of which I may not need apparently). Also, I switched the GPU to the GTX 770 because it's listed on Adobe's supported cards list. Not that the 760 wouldn't work but maybe this one "future proofs" it a bit more and plus most of the footage we handle is 60fps edited and exported at 24fps so according to that Tweaker's link above, a great GPU help. It does have 4GB VRAM instead of 2gb so I don't know what difference that makes but I figure its better. As for "brand" I took a wild guess and went with Gigabyte, not sure if that's good or not. FYI: By comparison the iMac I'm debating has a GTX 780M GPU with 4GB VRAM. You tell me if this was smart. Still under budget.
So many questions remain. cc_merchant, feel free to lay out your wisdom and help me shape my purchase based on what you know. I like hearing things like "don't need that" or switch it out for "this one" instead. If it goes over $3300 by a touch (not too much), that's okay as long as it's gonna be THAT much better than the spec'd out 2013 iMac listed above.
Thx again.
Here's where I stand...
CPU
Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core
$573.98
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 SE2011
$74.99
Motherboard
Asus P9X79-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011
$465.99
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866
$325.68
Storage
Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" SSD
$209.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
$59.99
Video Card
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB
$447.99
Wireless Network Adapter
Asus PCE-N53 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1
$32.99
Case
Rosewill BLACKHAWK-ULTRA ATX Full Tower
$189.99
Power Supply
Corsair 860W ATX12V / EPS12V
$166.49
Optical Drive
Asus BW-14D1XT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
$88.98
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)
$96.99
Monitor
Asus PB278Q 27.0"
$549.9
TOTAL: $3284.03
Any Suggestions? Changes? .... -
Which GPU is Premiere Pro CC using for playback?
Is there any way to tell which GPU PPcc is using during playback? For instance, on the new Mac Pro, which card does it choose to use for accelerating effects? Or lets say I have a windows system with two different video cards installed, how does it choose which one to use, and can I specify which one it should use?
The OS determines most of it. As far as I know it is based on which PCI slot they are in, sorted by closest to the CPU to furthest, and independent of monitors being attached because the ordering is fixed at system startup while monitors can come and go. This can of course lead to some bad cases when the primary GPU doesn't have a monitor attached but those are edge cases. The one case of reordering we do over the OS list is we always put discrete devices ahead of integrated devices.
Premiere will only use 1 GPU for playback and all others can be used for export.
Hope this information is helpful.
Peter Garaway
Adobe
Premiere Pro -
Apple, Mac Pro, Amd vs Nvidia with cuda? Why, and what to buy for Premiere Pro?
Mac Pro has dual Amd video cards installed, and does not offer Nvidia cards with Cuda in this line up, as far as I can tell. The iMacs offer nvidia cards which seem a better choice for Premiere Pro which uses the cuda rendering capabilities. Which would be best for Premiere Pro? The quad Mac Pro, or the top of the line iMac with double the ram, say 32gigs vs 16 in the Mac Pro? Why did Apple put AMD cards in the Mac Pro line?
jtopenshaw wrote:
Why did Apple put AMD cards in the Mac Pro line?
Apple believes that OpenCL, not CUDA, is the future of GPGPU computing. CUDA is closed and proprietary to nVidia only. OpenCL is, as the name says: open.
As of the creation and planning of the Mac Pro, nVidia's GPUs were (and most of them still are) very poor performers when it comes to OpenCL. I expect that, over time, nVidia will catch up to AMD regarding OpenCL. But they're not quite there yet, across the board.
Why are the GPUs in the iMac (and Macbook Pro) nVidia? They make better and more efficient mobile GPUs at this point in time. The GPU in the iMac is similar to the GPU in the Macbook Pro in that they're both mobile, not desktop GPUs. AMD has a fairly poor representation in that market (so far), so Apple stuck with nVidia.
It's likely that Apple doesn't see the iMac and Macbook Pro lineup as devices to be used for massive GPGPU processing. The Mac Pro, on the other hand is where they see that being used heavily. Perhaps when and if AMD decides to produce an efficient and powerful mobile GPU, Apple will cut (back) over to them. But one can only guess, there.
Ugio wrote:
What I can tell you it's that the mixture between Mac Pro (2013) and the last Adobe Suite does not worth the money.
That's fair and is your opinion. I don't agree. :-) -
I have a Mac book pro(13 inch non-retina, i7) with regular drive, I want to replace the drive with SSD, so can I do it for Mac book pro purchased in 2012 and which SSD is recommended.
I am looking for 500 to 700GB SSD.
ThanksUpgrading your MacBook Pro with a Solid State Drive...
...call back with any questions.
Clinton -
Can anyone recommend a good instruction book for intermediate Mac users?
I have been using Mac for 3 years now so am not a total beginner, but still need help in many areas of OS X use. These forums are brilliant and thanks to the willing help from more expert members I have learnt a lot ( thank you), however there are times when just having a book open in front of you is the easiest way to get to grips with something. Can anyone recommend a good user manual for people like me who don't need a real beginners guide but also don't want a mind numbing, in depth, advanced text. I already have Maria Langers Visual Quickstart Guide which is useful but is exactly what it says, a quick start, and David Pogues Missing Manual which I find a little frustrating as he seems to fall short of explaining exactly how to do something after he says it can be done!
I guess what I am really after is a clearly written book that is good for beginners and more advanced users alike, with screen shots to show you what you should be doing.
Grateful for any suggestions.
macbook white 2ghz Mac OS X (10.4.6) 512mb ram and 60gig hard drive,Hi again,
Many thanks for the feedback and the star!
For troubleshooting, Dr Smoke's Troubleshooting Mac OS X eBook is invaluable. Again, I have the Panther edition. I haven't, yet, felt the need for the Tiger edition with so many of the tips available free via his FAQs.
The only drawback, of course, is that when one is in a fix and possibly unable to boot up, the e-book isn't accessible unless one has a copy on another Mac.
Have fun,
Adrian -
I bought the Mac version of Premiere Elements, can I get the Windows version for free or cheap with my serial number? I'm about to migrate back to PC soon and I'd love to not have to buy the program again since I just bought it. Under my order history though it only shows it for Mac so I wanted to make sure.
ihavea4
The boxed packaging is not sold by Adobe direct. If you want to explore that type of purchase which offers the perk of a Windows and a Mac installation disc, you need to purchase from an authorized reseller who is not going to offer you "upgraded pricing". The seller would be its own entity with its own pricing and own return/refund policy. Sometimes the authorized reseller price may be less than the Adobe"upgraded pricing".
Did you purchase your Premiere Elements 13 Mac from Adobe direct and are within 30 days of purchase? If so, you can contact Adobe Chat Orders to ask for return/refund. And, then you can explore the authorized resellers for pricing and availability of the box packaging. Maybe check out the pricing all around before making any final decisions.
Please review and consider.
Thank you.
ATR -
With Premiere Elements 11, when Publish/Share (saving) a finished video, selecting H.264 .mov file type, what are the recommended Aspect and Codec settings , for a crisp video with a small file size?
Gary Krouse
We will customize a very detailed reply, but
(a) What are the properties of your source media?
(b) What did you or the program set as the project preset to match the properties of the source media?
(c) What specific requirements do you have for this H.264.mov export file?
File size can be a compromise between bitrate, file size, and quality.
Thanks.
ATR -
Hi all
Looking for a good Windows only bootcamp gpu for Mac Pro 1,1.
Anyone one have any ideas for a windows gaming gpu that will work well?
Dont need to get latest if the Mac Pro 1,1 slot is limited, but would like to get a better card for Windows games.
Price is not really a problem, more just dont want to spend more if the Mac Pro 1.1 is slot limited.
Thanks very much.What do you want to use the pc vid card for? Gaming?
If you don't need the best of the best you can get, perhaps just grabbing an apple 4870 might work best.
The $350 might be a little steep, but it might be worth it as you can good graphics in not only windows but mac as well.
You could sell your 1900xt to off-set the price. And then just keep the 7300gt just in case. -
Plz Recommend an "Automatic" Torrent Downloader for Mac/OSX Yosemite
Hello. I was hoping somebody could please recommend an "Automatic" Torrent Downloader for Mac/OSX Yosemite..
I know that there are a few options out there, but most of them seem to be directed towards TV Shows.. which isn't a problem, but I was hoping for one that could be used for pretty much anything.. like applications, music, movies, TV shows, ****, whatever..
Basically, something where you could enter a "keyword" or "artist", for example, and have it automatically add whatever new torrents come up in whatever specific parameters you set (so you could basically set a music artist's name, for example, and specify music only, so that it's not downloading every video, image, or whatever that also contains that "keyword")..
Does something like this exist for Mac/OS X Yosemite? Would really love a recommendations! Thank you!Hello. I was hoping somebody could please recommend an "Automatic" Torrent Downloader for Mac/OSX Yosemite..
I know that there are a few options out there, but most of them seem to be directed towards TV Shows.. which isn't a problem, but I was hoping for one that could be used for pretty much anything.. like applications, music, movies, TV shows, ****, whatever..
Basically, something where you could enter a "keyword" or "artist", for example, and have it automatically add whatever new torrents come up in whatever specific parameters you set (so you could basically set a music artist's name, for example, and specify music only, so that it's not downloading every video, image, or whatever that also contains that "keyword")..
Does something like this exist for Mac/OS X Yosemite? Would really love a recommendations! Thank you! -
It doesnt support the operating system for mac? adobe premiere?
it doesnt support the operating system for mac? adobe premiere?
Hi,
which version of Premiere Pro are you trying to install? Also check your system compatibility for Premiere Pro CC as suggested by John. If you are trying to install CS6 or any of the previous versions then you can check the compatibilty from this link. http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/system-requirements-premiere-pro.html MAC OS 10.6.8 should work with Premiere Pro CS6, if your system meets the rest of the criteria. For Premiere Pro CC, 10.6.8 may not work. Check your OS if its a 32 bit or a 64 bit http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3696 -
New Nvidia Graphics Cards for Premiere GPU Acceleration
Hi! I'm looking for a new laptop. Under the list of the cards usesd for GPU Acceleration in Premiere (http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.edu.html), none of the new GTX 700m's are listed. Is the list of acceptable GPUs out of date and the 700s do work, or do the 700s really not work? Thanks!
Hi Chris,
For Premiere Pro CC we made some chnages to our GPU support. See this post by Al Mooney.
Also, some customers may be aware that in the past there was a not-so-secret way of enabling non-supported GPUs by the ‘hacking’ or removal of a text file. This is no longer necessary in Premiere Pro CC. As long as you have a reasonably modern card with at least 1GB of VRAM, you will still be able to enable that card in the Project Settings dialog. A warning message will appear letting you know that your card has not been certified by Adobe, but once that dialog is clicked through you can use your GPU. The team does try to certify as many GPUs as possible, but we can’t test everything, so this is a way to let you decide if you’re happy using an untested configuration.
http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/06/adobe-premiere-pro-cc-and-gpu-support.html
Peter Garaway
Adobe
Premiere Pro
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