Recommendation on AIR-AP1231G-A-K9 replacement in warehouse

Hello,
We have a customer with ~15 x AIR-AP1231G-A-K9 that they would like to replace with N capable devices in a warehouse. The warehouse has ~30 ft ceiling and is ~300' x ~200'. It's got around twenty 20' tall x 100' long metal shelves with cardboard & metallic content in the middle of the warehouse...
Currently, it's got some dark spots between some of the shelves. I'm thinking of the Aironet 3502E with dipole antennas, but I'm wondering if I need a patch antenna like the AIR-ANT5160NP-R to increase the power output... Also, what are some recommendations on placement of the AP's and antennas? Would ceiling mount be OK, or would you go with wallmount?
Thanks in advanced for the community's feedback.
-Dave

Since the release of 802.11n, its been great for warehouses. Warehouses often suffer from multipath. 802.11n needs multipath. It also allows for beam forming to non-802.11n clients. Good choice and the 3500 will give you clean air.
I've had great success with warehouse deployments by shaping the signal to the area of coverage and not so much with the omni or dipoles. Especially, if you ceiling mount them.
Ive fixed a lot of deployments where dipole and omni's were all mounted to ceiling. However when you go up on a lift truck and get above the racks you will see all the APs see each other.
Thus why i like directions for warehouses. Cuts down on exsessive bleed.
Thats just my 2 pennys

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(Cisco Controller) >show ap join stats summary 00:07:0e:5b:8e:9d
Is the AP currently connected to controller................ Yes
Time at which the AP joined this controller last time...... Not applicable
Type of error that occurred last........................... Lwapp configuration                                                                                         request rejected
Reason for error that occurred last........................ Ignoring config stat                                                                                        us as mac address is not present in database
Time at which the last join eror occurred.................. Jul 03 02:43:25.677
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Discovery phase statistics
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- Successful discovery responses sent...................... 76
- Unsuccessful discovery request processing................ 0
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- Successful join responses sent........................... 37
- Unsuccessful join request processing..................... 0
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- Successful configuration responses sent.................. 0
- Unsuccessful configuration request processing............ 37
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- Time at last successful configuration attempt............ Not applicable
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Last AP disconnect details
- Reason for last AP connection failure.................... Not applicable
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