Recommended installation option PO vs. AEX / adding usage type in future

Dear guys,
at the moment some clients I am working with a thinking of migrate their existing PI dual stack landscape and setupt a new single stack landscape.
Doing so there is the question either to go for PO or AEX.
Often there is no need for BPM/BRM component yet, but maybe this will change in future.
Therefore there is the question if it is pssible to add BPM/BRM functionality to an existing AEX installation (SID) or not.
So far I found inconsistent information regarding this question.
In this blog it is mentioned that adding of BPM/BRM is not possible.
http://scn.sap.com/community/process-orchestration/blog/2012/12/07/upgrade-options-to-the-latest-process-integration-or-process-orchestration
Instead this presenation indicates that it should be possible to add new usage type to an existing AEX (slide 5 which is also included in Teched presenations)
http://www.sapevent.ch/landingpagesfr/Manager/uploads/303/TU%20S2%20Technical%20PI_to_PO_Migration.pdf
Can anyone clear up this topic?
Appreciate your help.
Best regards
Jochen

Hi Hareesh
thanks for your reply and pointing me to this thread.
Obviously the deployment possibility changed overtime and was initially not possible but now it seems to be possible.
Process Orchestration - SAP Library
You can obtain Process Orchestration by installation or by adding the corresponding usage types to an existing SAP NetWeaver system. For latter, both are supported, deployment of BPM on an existing AEX system and deployment of an AEX on an existing BPM system.
Also the lately published PO Roadmap indicates that it should be possible to add usage type. (page 25)
https://websmp103.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000273752014E.pdf
best regards
Jochen

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