Reconcillation of subcontracting challan

hi every body
my problem is about reconcillation of subcontracting challan.
let 10 kg material named A is to be manufatured by 16 kg of material B. NOW i created a sub contracting po ,541 tranfer posting, j1if01subcontracting challan, then i do good receipt fpr 10 kg A material and assign the subcontacting chhalan to the good receipt.now quality department reject 5 kg A MATERIAL FROM 10 KG A material and send 5 kg A material to the vendor with movement type 122. with this also 8 kg of material B is also returned with movement type 544 with stock provided to vendor o .
now when we chack with MBLB 8 kg of material B is with subcontractor.now when we reconcile quantity with J1IFQ .
it shows and give the warning massage that 8 KGof B MATERAIL is short.it does not allowed to save
however 8 kg of material B is with subcontractor tehn it should be reconcilled with rest of 8 kg of B material. why it does not save. is this problem of patches. please give solution this is urgent requirement.points will be rewarded.

I want to give it an attempt
while reciving the mat A total 16KG of B is issued, so stock of B is reduced by 16 KG.
Now you did 350 & 122 for rejection and dispatch of mat. A with 5 KG that means for Mat B 8 KG made, so we get 8 KG of B back ( which is in vendor place)
but while doing reconcilation the stock of B is required which is shot by 8 KG. let teh cycle to complet means recive the repaired the material A then do reconcilation. system will not so this error.
simutate in test once to check it now as it seems you r in hurry.
Regards

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