Reconfirmation about Airport Extreme device capacity

So if I read the current Airport Extreme specs correctly it can support 50 wireless and 150 wired devices simultaneously.
Would it apply to a setup of 2 Switches and 1 Mac Mini directly connected to it? The first switch would have 6 IP cameras, 1 NAS with Link Aggregation (2 ports), 1 Mac Pro, 1 Apple TV. The second switch would connect 2 Game Consoles, 1 Apple TV, 1 HTPC. That would be 13 devices total (or 14 if you count the two ports from the NAS).
I just want advice if it's recommended to do it.

So if I read the current Airport Extreme specs correctly it can support 50 wireless and 150 wired devices simultaneously.
The Extreme could actually be configured to have up to 50 wireless and about 200 Ethernet clients, but out of the box, in router mode, it is setup to handle 50/150.
Once you get much above about 20 wireless devices, things are really going to slow down unless you have a very fast Internet connection. Remember....all devices will share the same Internet connection bandwidth, so if you have 20 devices to connect and a 20 Mbps Internet connection, each device is only going to get about 1 Mbps.
This assumes that you have AirPort Extreme configured to act as the main router on your network.
That means that it must connect to a simple modem......not a modem/router or gateway type of device that is often furnished to customers by Internet Service Providers.
So, before we go further, let's clarify on what modem you will be using. Make and model number?

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Few questions about Airport Extreme/Express

I have a few questions about Airport extreme/express:
1 Can you access hard drive trough express?
2 I have cable NOT wireless modem. What would be the best option (speed-wise) to connect to internet- connect modem to Extreme and access internet wirelessly from it? To connect modem to Extreme and imac?
3 How fast is read/ write from hard drive connected to Extreme?
4 How many hard drives can you connect to Extreme (or Express if that is possible)?
5 Can you remotely sync Ipod nano/ shuffle using Extreme?
I really hate wire clutter around my desk. What I intend to do is to connect hard drives and printer to Airport Extreme and access them remotely. That would leave empty desk:).
Thanks

1. You cannot connect a hard drive to the Airport Express USB port.
2. The speed of wireless networking is faster than the speed of most cable internet services. Therefore, you won't notice any difference in your internet connection speed between (a) a cabled connection directly between Mac and modem or (b) a wireless connection between Mac and base station and modem.
3. Apple has not published any specs on the speed of hard drive access for the Airport Extreme N Base Station. Several people have posted their own measurements (do a search in this discussion forum), and generally those results are not very good.
4. Apple has not placed a limit on the number of drives you can attach to the Airport Extreme N Base Station (with use of a hub). How many do you want to connect?
5. You cannot remotely sync an iPod using the Extreme Base Station.

A PC user's questions about Airport Extreme & Airport Express

Hi all,
I have a few questions regarding both the Airport Extreme AC and the Airport Express.
I am a PC user who is currently looking at replacing my Cisco Linksys EA4500(primary router) and my Linksys E2500(bridge router) due to the lack of regular firmware updates that Linksys fails to provide for their routers and the fact that I simply find Linksys products to be buggy.. Based on my research, Apple's Airport Extreme N and the AC versions have received excellent reviews on Amazon and I am considering purchasing both the Airport Extreme AC(to replace my Linksys EA4500) and the Airport Express(to replace my Linksys E2500).
Before I get to my questions, let me be frank in saying that I do not have a Mac(but intend to after my desktop dies) at this time but in my house we have two iPhone 4s's and one iPad 2 as far as Apple products are concerned. My computer network consists of my HP Windows 7 based desktop and HP Windows 7 laptop and I have a home ethernet in every room in the house . In addition, my den's ethernet connection is connected as Ethernet wall jack in which the connections include---->Ethernet switch------>Tivo---->Playstation 3/Xbox 360/Nintendo Wii/----->Samsung Smart TV---->Linksys E2500.
My questions are as follows:
1. Initial/Out of the box set up: Based on what I have read here, it is possible for a PC user to setup the Airport Extreme by downloading the Airport Extreme utility software from Apple. However I have been confused based on what I have read on Amazon in that some users report that the initial setup can only be done using a Mac. Would someone from this forum kindly clairify this for me? Can I set up the Airport Extreme with my network assuming that I have previously downloaded an installed Apple's Airport Extreme Utility for the PC?
2. Using the Airport Express as a wireless bridge: Currently my Linksys E2500 serves as my secondary router in my den in bridge mode. Can I set up an Airport Express as a wireless bridge assuming I was sucessfully in setting up my Airport Extreme? On Linksys products this is done by setting the router in bridge mode and assigning it a specific IP address within the bridge router's settings. So for example, my Linksys E2500 has a 192.168.1.1X IP address, can I do this with the Airport Extreme? Note the the intention here for the extra router in my den to provide additional wireless coverage due to the size of my home. I do not need it to provide me with the same wireless network name as my primary router, I only want to provide the back of my house with additional wireless coverage that a primary router will not provide.
3. Router Security and reliability: I would like the router that I purchase to include regular firmware updates beyond that of one year. Especially now that most modern routers have some sort of cloud set up, I wouldn't want to purchase a router today, only to find out that I wouldn't be able to update its firmware one year from now. With respect to Apple's routers, how often does Apple release firmware and typically speaking; how long will Apple support additional firmware releases for its products?
Thanks to anyone who reads and responds to my long post!

The one problem is Apple using their own automatic port opening system.. NAT-PMP which is fine for apple clients but will not work with almost anything else made which depends on UPNP ..
There are lots of hassles with PS3 and XBox live and anything that depends on standard automatic port opening for interactive internet connection.
Manually opening ports is possible but a pain.
eg
AirPort Extreme and xbox 360
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5385065?tstart=0
I do agree with John Galt that the Apple products are well made and generally great.. they did have a bad capacitor failure issue in the Gen1 and Gen2 TC which he may have forgotten about.. I have repaired about 200 of the bludgers. And there was a dedicated site to pressure apple to fix them.. with 2500 recorded dead TC.
See http://timecapsuledead.org/
See
https://sites.google.com/site/lapastenague/a-deconstruction-of-routers-and-modem s/apple-time-capsule-repair
And some ongoing issues.. even post getting that fixed up.
https://sites.google.com/site/lapastenague/a-deconstruction-of-routers-and-modem s/apple-time-capsule-repair/new-issue-with-a1355-gen-3-tc
But the AEBS had external power supply so didn't add to the heat of built in HDD and power supply in a case too small without cooling. New ones seem to have learnt the lessons of the past in that the power supply is internal but they use a fan system to keep it cool.
See http://www.ifixit.com/Device/Apple_Time_Capsule for internal construction.. TC and AEBS are now identical except for the hard disk.
An option worth considering is using a router with third party source firmware.
You are then never cut off from great updated firmware.. and you can do amazingly more with the fuller setup that includes Telnet cli and extensive interface on the GUI.
Eg Gargoyle on a Netgear WNDR3800 or even cheaper TP-Link WDR3600 or WDR4300.
These offer full QoS, not in Apple products.
Full throttling controls, not in Apple products.
Quota, not in any other products in domestic market at all.
NAT-PMP and UPNP, not in Apple products.
VPN, not in Apple products.
Multiple VLAN, Multiple IP addressing, not in Apple producs.
SMTP, which Apple removed from all their new products.. no reason why.
Log access, which Apple removed from the new airport utility.. no reason why.
etc.
If for some reason that firmware doesn't suit.. you can flash over to DD-WRT, or OPENWRT.. etc. in other words you are never again beholden to the manufacturer who after the product is EOL is also end of support.

How do I change one airport extreme device for a new one?

I have an old Airport Extreme (looks like a flying saucer) that my cable modem is connected to. Other Airport Express devices expand the wireless network around my house and Time Capsule is connected to the wireless network.
I want to take advantage of 802.11n so I'm looking to buy the latest model of Extreme to replace the old one. I still want to connect the cable modem to the WAN port of the new Extreme but just wanted to be sure how I can "swap" the two devices and minimise the disruption to my wireless LAN and the devices that connect to it.
I'd be grateful for any help or guidance.
Kind regards,
Cliff
Brighton, UK

Welcome to the discussions, Cliff!
There is an old saying that goes something like "change one thing on the network and everything else on the network changes".
While it should be relatively straightforward to connect your new AirPort Extreme to the cable modem, you will also be creating a new "main" network and a new "guest" wireless network...assuming you will use the dual-band version of this product.
That means that any current devices that you have now that have been connecting to your old wireless network will all need to be reconfigured again to join the new network, so you are basically starting all over again from scratch with each device.
Since you have configured your old system, you already know that it is not that difficult providing that you follow the configuration instructions carefully. I'm guessing that you have the older b/g versions of the AirPort Express, so perhaps the most tedious process will be to setup the AirPort Extreme and Express devices to participate in a WDS (Wireless Distribution System).
You may need to refer to both the older and newer AirPort Networks guides as the older one includes step by step instructions for configuring the WDS while the newer guide covers the advanced features of the dual band Extreme. Please post back on your progress.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/Designing_AirPort_Networks10.5-Windows.pdf
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/Apple_AirPort_NetworksEarly2009.pdf

Need advice about AIrport Extreme/ Bluetooth Upgrade!!!!

Okay, so when I bought my first Mac I didn't opt for wireless. Now I see I want it.
So I have a late model 2.0 Dual Core PowerPC G5.
There are two different cards I see. One, I cannot find ANYWHERE for less than $250.00.
Then I see there is another card out there, a different card. I am not sure which one I actually need. And the people at Apple can't seem to tell me either.
So please, check out these links, and if you know which one I need, please tell me.
Apple Mac Airport Extreme WiFi& BT Bluetooth Card A1126
http://www.welovemacs.com/6613692.html
APPLE MA252G/A Wireless Upgrade Kit for PowerMac G5
http://www.amazon.com/MA252G-Wireless-Upgrade-Kit-PowerMac/dp/B000DT935G/ref=wlitdp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1PTCL4BCN48KS&colid=GX0MI1BDF75M

Hi-
Not sure about the Amazon link (no stock anyways).
The We Love Macs link appears to be correct.
Note that you need the runway card, and the stand off card to install the combo card.
Might consider wireless/bluetooth USB adapters as an option. Much cheaper.......

Airport Utility cannot see Airport Extreme Device even though connected to wireless network

I'm trying to set up a Macbook Air for my wife. I have a home network of four Airport Extremes that were configured in bridge mode with an authenticated SSID and one that is open for guests. On my PC my airport Utility sees all of the base stations and can configure them fine. On the Macbook air the utility cannot see any of the base stations no matter how many times I scan. The strange thing is that it can see both wireless networks. A fact that may be related to the problem is that the Macbook Air cannot authenticate into the secured SSID. The password is correct. Other machines (PC/Mac) all have no problem. Apple TV 2's, iPad's, and iPhone's all have no problem. I'm stumped.
Any help is appreciated! Thanks.

As usual in recent years, Apple creates and ships a problem (latest MacBook Air + Airport Extreme N + Airport Utility 6.1), and when multiple users encounter the problem, and post about it, nary an Apple supoort person to take ownership, so threads just die, like this one did. I'm having the same problem, and as a committed Apple customer, I just want to find any oither company to do business with.
(I'm sure connecting by wired Ethernet would work, but THE AIR DOESN'T HAVE AN ETHERNET JACK!!)
Love this community. Have had it with Apple.
Sincerely,
Marc

Voltage specs and international question about Airport Extreme (802.11n)

I'm about to travel to Korea to teach English for a year so I'm preparing all my electronic gear for the journey and I've come to a curious question involving the Airport Extreme with 802.11n.
First of all, I'm worried about voltage (Korea runs on 220v / 60Hz). For most hard drives (and Apple hardware in general it seems) the power supply is auto-switching 100-240v 50/60 Hz, but when I looked at the official specs for the Airport Extreme (hereafter AEBS) this info is conspicuously absent. The AEBS itself runs on 12V DC power, which is listed in the specs, but the input tolerance for the AC adapter isn't mentioned. I checked the specs for the Time Capsule since the hardware is presumably very similar and it is explicitly 100-240v. Likewise the replacement power supply available from Apple is listed as 100-240v, but since it is a replacement part I'm not sure if it is the exact same make as the adapter that ships with the AEBS in North America. If someone knows the definitive specs, I would appreciate an answer.
Secondly, when I tried searching the Korean Apple site (www.apple.co.kr) for specs on the Korean version of the AEBS to see if it was the same, I discovered that the Airport Extreme isn't available in Korea (although the Airport Express and Time Capsule). Does anyone know why this is? Is it possible the Airport Extreme doesn't comply with Korean wireless standards (I know the iPhone isn't being released in Korea because of laws about middleware that must be installed on cellular phones in Korea)? It seems safe given the availability of the Time Capsule in Korea, but does anyone have any specific knowledge about the Airport Extreme or Wi-fi regulations in Korea?
Sorry if this is a strange question, but I'd appreciate insight from the more experienced/advanced Apple users out there.
-Matt Tranquada

Thanks for the response. I guess what I would like to know is if I am closer to the newer 802.11n AE base station with my laptop, will it ignore the older base station and communicate directly with the stronger signal, or does it communicate with the weaker, more distant signal. Does the laptop automatically determine which base station has a stronger signal and choose it, or is it fixed which base station the laptop communicates with?

Random Questions about Airport Extreme Card

I have an early 2006 iMac with the built in Airport Extreme card, and so far I've managed to use it to share my ethernet internet connection with my Nintendo DS, Wii, PS3, Apple TV, etc.
But I have some random questions that I'm hoping some of you people can answer.
1. Does my Airport card support UPnP (or whatver the Mac equivelent is), and if so, how do I enable it?
2. With my old router I used to be able to type it's IP address into the address bar of my browser and access the settings for it. Anyway of doing this sort of thing to access the Airport's settings?
That's all I need to know really. Any help would be appreciated.
1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo, 2GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Hi
UPnP is handled by your router/modem.
You cant get access to the airport extreme card it has no settings to my knowledge(apart from network prefs).
Tony

About Airport Extreme

I bought a Airport Extreme in America but I can't use it in China.So I need help.Thanks

Hi, andylai. Welcome to the forums!
AirPort Utility can monitor the total wireless data flow through your Extreme, but it can't measure the flow through Ethernet, and it can't break the wireless flow down to examine traffic on a per-client basis. As far as I know, those just can't be done with an Extreme.

Extremely Confused about Airport Extreme.

I have a macbookpro which is a little under a year old, my family runs on PCs and just got a "N" Wireless router - is there a way to update my computer so it will run on the N, or will an update only work to run on the new N airport extreme base/wireless console.
I know there is a downloadable update for $1.99, but the updates (AirPort Extreme Update 2007-001) is says needs to be downloaded first won't run on my computer - am i missing something?
Thank you for your help

I have a macbookpro which is a little under a year old, my family runs on PCs and just got a "N" Wireless router - is there a way to update my computer so it will run on the N, or will an update only work to run on the new N airport extreme base/wireless console.
If your MacBook Pro has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, than yes...and no, it should work with most "n" wireless routers.
I know there is a downloadable update for $1.99, but the updates (AirPort Extreme Update 2007-001) is says needs to be downloaded first won't run on my computer
AirPort Extreme Update 2007-002 supersedes the -001 version.

Do airport extreme devices cover two story houses?

any experience using one of the current versions of airport extreme in a two story house?
i am planning on installing it upstairs, as apple recommends placing it as high as possible
in a building. i am hoping that i won't have to put a second unit downstairs to boost the signal
strength. anyone have any thoughts on the subject? thanks, dave

any experience using one of the current versions of airport extreme in a two story house?
Yes. I have set up the AirPort Extreme in a number of cases and it was able to cover both stories. However, every case is different. Several factors to take into consideration: 1) The overall square footage that you want covered, 2) Where will you be placing the base station? Will it be in the center of the 2nd floor or to one of its sides?, 3) The building material used in your home, & 4) Other sources of Wi-Fi interference.
Typically you would want to perform a site survey. Of course to do so you would need an existing wireless router to make the measurements. If you already have the Extreme, go ahead and place it at the desired location upstair, then use the following AirPort User Tip to calculate the SNR values at different locations where you are planning on connecting to the Wi-Fi network.

Question about Airport Extreme, Cable Modems??

Help, I am new to wireless and I need some help with setup. I have tried to even register my new airport extreme and can't seem to get started on any of this. I understand much of the concepts, but the networking I am familiar with involve cables and routers, ethernet.
I have a cable modem with Comcast that is very old. I have a suspicion I may need to get a newer cable modem. What modems out there have had success so to speak, I also have a new quickey USB Tranceiver I am trying to get hooked up, which is suppossed to take care of a internal airport card???
Of course to start setting this up, I will be killing my internet connections so I can not look up forums for help. Anything I should do before I unplug and try to get ethernet signal from Modem to Airport?

Even though your cable modem is "very old", it may well work just fine with your new base station. I suggest you try it - and if it works, you'll have saved yourself some money.
Connect the modem and your base station. Then pull power to both for at least five minutes - longer if you are patient enough. Then plug the modem into power and wait a minute. Then plug the base station into power and wait a minute. If all goes well, your base station will show a solid green status light telling you it has successfully connected with Comcast's service.
Cable your Mac to one of the Base Station's LAN ports - and it should now have internet access.
My understanding is that the Quickey "Quicky USB Transceiver" is used to improve the range of a Mac that is already equipped with an Airport card.

HT3728 how do I see IP addresses of connected devices to my airport extreme

I'm trying to reuse a Net Gear N600 router I had to shelve since I installed my Airport Extreme router as an access point. I need to see other IP addresses so I can configure the N600 IP address as 10.0.1.xxx. The only way to make sure I don't use an already used IP address for the N600 is to see what IP addresses are used by the system.
The only support I've found here is how to set up a distributed network using other apple airport extreme devices.
Has anyone done/added a second non-apple router configured as an access point to an airport extreme. If you have please let me know what you did. I intend to have the N600 connected via ethernet cable to my airport extreme to extend both my wifi network and connected devices.
Thanks,
Steven

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Is AirPort Extreme Base Station the right device and reliable for my setup?

hey guys,
i got a 2012 13" macbook air, iphone5 and an 2012 appletv
ive also got two external usb3 2tb powered hdd's that i would to setup towards and use on my network.
i have videos/movies/files/music that i would like to access from the network,
so ive been looking at the extreme device and i can share via sb in the back x1 external hdd.
from what ive googled i can share more devices such as my x2 external hdd's via a powered hub, is that correct?
so my main question is..how fast is the read/copy/write going to be via through a hub?
will it lag/skip if i watch videos on my macbook or straight to my appletv, which supposedly i can do access aswell, is that correct?
just say video file will be 1gb only.. and im going to be only not even 5meters from the extreme device(network).
what transfer rate will it copy/write from and to from one device(usb3 external hdd via powered hub via airport extreme) to my mac?
what is the usb port on the back? 2 or 3?
does anyone have a similar setup or use an airport extreme device for this setup?
and my last question is...
how reliable are these extreme device?
from what i read, these devices only last like two yrs and people have had alot of problems issue with faults etc....

Speed of read/write: if you're going by wireless, you're going to be limited by the wireless speeds. Based on my usage, it seems like wireless N at 5 GHz tops out around 5-6 MB/s (40-48 mbps) with this router. That's fine for video streaming, but will feel slow for heavy file transfer activity.
The USB port on the back of the device is USB 2.0. As a reminder, USB 2.0 is rated for theoretical speeds of 480 mbps, although in practice they're much lower; regardless, it's much faster than the wireless protocols are capable of. Your bottleneck will be the wireless.
I only use a printer with my USB port, so I can't give you any real-world experience with sharing hard drives. You can use a USB hub to expand the ports, but it will need to be a self-powered hub: the Airport Extreme won't power devices through the port. It's also worth noting that trying to use a network-shared disk as a Time Machine drive is a bit flakey; I've read a number of reports where people got it working, but then had their backups become corrupt with time. I haven't read any reports of people having issues with using drives for purposes besides Time Machine, though.
As for reliability, it's hard to say. Nothing lasts forever; you'll find people whose devices failed very quickly, and some who are using generation 1 or 2 devices that are still working just fine. I haven't heard any reports of an usually high failure rate with Airport Extremes. Operation-wise, my Airport Extreme (5th gen) is the most stable router that I've used, and I went through four or five other routers before this one. It's the only router that I have not needed to reboot, even after months of uptime and heavy traffic that usually choked up my other routers. I'm very impressed with it.

I have a BT home Hub 3 with standard BT broadband(no infinity), how do I set up an Apple AirPort Extreme without a stand alone modem? Can I use my current Home Hub

I want to use an Apple AirPort Extreme as my home router but at present I have standard BT broadband using the BT Home hub 3. Can I connect them in some way so I don't need to buy a stand alone modem.
IS THIS POSSIBLE???
1. Would Apple AirPort Express be better and easier?
2. What modem would be suitable if I can't do it any other way?
I AM CURRENTLY USING MY INTERNET WITH PS3,WINDOWS 7 LAPTOP, IPAD AND IPHONE!!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
John smith

You said that you wanted the layout to look like this:
AT&T 2WIRE Router (wireless off) ---> AirPort Extreme ---> NetGear 16-Port Gigabit Desktop Switch ---> ethernet cabling to ports in most rooms --->
So, we took that at face value....,.but it could look like this if things are more convenient this way, if you prefer:
AT&T 2WIRE > Ethernet Switch > AirPort Extreme and other devices.
- If we include an AirPort Extreme in the overall network setup, are there any potential issues with the 2WIRE router and the AirPort Extreme router "competing" with one another?
No, if you leave the wireless function off on the 2WIRE. If you do want the utilize the wireless on the 2WIRE and the AirPort Extreme, then you want to keep them physically separated by 6-8 feet, or a few meters.
- Do I really need an AirPort Extreme in the final setup?
No, if the AirPort Express will provide enough range for the network.
Or if I just want an extra WAP, can I operate two AirPort Express units (with the same SSID) downstream of a 2WIRE router?
Yes, if both of them are configured to operate in Bridge Mode. If you are using the "wizard" setup utility in AirPort Utility 6.x, the wizard will do this for you automatically.
That is to say, could we have a setup that looks just like the image above, but with an extra AirPort Express tacked on to one of the unused ethernet ports?
You can have as many AirPort Express devices (or AirPort Extreme devices) as you want, as long as each has an Ethernet connection back to the switch.

Reconfirmation about Airport Extreme device capacity

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