Recording Fantom G8

Hi
I'm having a problem monitoring throug my macbook pro's headphone output when i'm recording an audio track from my Fantom G connected via USB (functioning as an usb audio interface).
My setup for output (macbook) and input (fantom) in Leopard System Prefs Audio is ignored by Logic Pro.
Does anyone know how to configure Logic in a way that i can use two audio interfaces (macbook & fantom)?
Michael

It's quite common - people who are used to using entry-level tools don't necessarily realise that the software is designed to do a certain amount of hand-holding.
When moving to a professional program, people somehow think that the new program will do everything the entry-level one did and more, but everything will be even easier.
However, professional software is designed specifically to not do any hand-holding. It's assumed that people using professional software have a certain amount of skills. The software is designed to help them realise what they want, rather than constrain them in "easy-mode".
In short, it doesn't hold your hand, it doesn't tell you when to go to bed, and it won't look all dissapproving when you turn up the following morning with a hangover and half your clothes missing.
The trouble with having the pro stuff so accessible is a lot of people who are really at the level of using entry-level programs are using the pro stuff simply because they can - and then they get frustrated because these programs require some knowledge to use effectively.
Sit someone in front of Maya or After Effects (as an example) who has very little knowledge or experience, and they won't get far. And the software is not going to try to educate them.
And we see this with Logic Pro 8 like never before, as a lot of new users have come on board, whether because the price point or value is so attractive, or because LP8 is accessible in a way LP7 and before wasn't.
(Note, this is a general thing, not necessarily applied to the OP here...)

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When pressing record it triggers a note on my roland fantom keyboard

Equipment: Macbook Pro 13", Roland Fantom g8, m audio project mix
Hi, i know this is probably a simple fix but I am having some problems while trying to record my external midi. Every time i press record it will play a low note with a sound coming from the 2nd channel on the fantom. Sometimes it will continuously play that specific note and i cant turn it off. For the mean time i have been muting the channel on the keyboard but i want to know why it is doing that.If anyone has any pointers that would be awesome.
Thank you, Brian T.

Check your metronome settings. Sounds like Logic is sending a midi click out on midi channel 2 to your keyboard. Disable it and just use the built in click.

RECORDING AUDIO through ROLAND FANTOM G8 on LOGIC PRO

Guys, I have been struggling for days, with such a ridiculously simple issue. I need to be able to record audio through my mic which is connected through my Roland Fantom G8 on one audio track in Logic, while simultaneously hearing the beat on another audio track through my computer's built-in output. Garageband does this automatically.
When I set the core audio input to the Roland Fantom, I can record just fine, but then I cannot hear the beat play through the computer's output. If I set the core audio input to built-in input, then I can hear the beat through the computer, but Logic does not detect my mic.
The program detects the Roland without me setting the core audio input to Roland Fantom, as I can record sounds on a midi track while simultaneously hearing the beat on an audio track. So why can I not record my vocals through the Roland on one audio track and simultaneously hear the beat on another audio track through the computer's output?
Somebody please let me know ASAP because I need to get this album of mine under way. It would be GREATLY appreciated.

It's quite common - people who are used to using entry-level tools don't necessarily realise that the software is designed to do a certain amount of hand-holding.
When moving to a professional program, people somehow think that the new program will do everything the entry-level one did and more, but everything will be even easier.
However, professional software is designed specifically to not do any hand-holding. It's assumed that people using professional software have a certain amount of skills. The software is designed to help them realise what they want, rather than constrain them in "easy-mode".
In short, it doesn't hold your hand, it doesn't tell you when to go to bed, and it won't look all dissapproving when you turn up the following morning with a hangover and half your clothes missing.
The trouble with having the pro stuff so accessible is a lot of people who are really at the level of using entry-level programs are using the pro stuff simply because they can - and then they get frustrated because these programs require some knowledge to use effectively.
Sit someone in front of Maya or After Effects (as an example) who has very little knowledge or experience, and they won't get far. And the software is not going to try to educate them.
And we see this with Logic Pro 8 like never before, as a lot of new users have come on board, whether because the price point or value is so attractive, or because LP8 is accessible in a way LP7 and before wasn't.
(Note, this is a general thing, not necessarily applied to the OP here...)

Problems recording external inputs

My setup: Mac Pro dual 2.66 GHz, 5G Ram, OS 10.5.5, LogicPro 7.2.3; Yamaha 01x interface conn. to Mac w/ mLan Firewire; Yamaha Motif Classic conn. to 01x w/ line inputs; Fantom XR Rack conn. to Mac w/Digital Coaxial; 2 Event TR8 Monitors conn. w/ unbalanced RCA from 01x monitor outs. I store all my Logic files on an external Firewire hard drive which has at least 2 Gigs of space remaining. Neither the Motif or Phantom are connected to the 01x w/ MIDI.
I was previously running Logic 7.2.3 w/ my 01x, Motif and Fantom w/ a Mac G5 Dual running OS 10.4. I just bought a brand new Mac Pro preloaded w/ OS 10.5.5. I migrated LogicPro from my old hard drive to the new one and downloaded the latest mLan AutoConnector driver from Yamaha.
PROBLEM: When I arm my Motif or Fantom to record (each 1 at a time), and play notes, a popping sound occurs every 20 seconds or so. When I record the signal, the popping noise can be heard on playback. I am sure my patch input settings are correct. I have tried using both mLan ports on the 01x, switched out monitor cables, as well as my motif input cables - same problem. When I monitor the 01x, the motif input comes through as normal w/ no popping, so I know my cables and physical mixer inputs are good. When I play previously recorded files, everything comes through fine as well.
What could possibly be the problem?

My problem appears to have been solved. When I was hearing the clicks and pops, the mLan cable from my 01x was connected to the Firewire 400 port on the FRONT of my MacPro. I connected it to the Firewire 400 port on the back of the MacPro, and no more pops.
I thought I had tried this before and it didn't work, but it seems to be working fine now.

Latency, Recording incoming Audio into Logic,... I don't understand

I'm trying to clear up my understanding (or misunderstanding) of latency of incoming audio into Logic.
As a test, here's what I did.
Set-Up
1. In Preferences/Audio/General, I set Plug-In delay Compensation to off.
2. In Preferences/Audio/Core I set the I/O Buffer Size to 32 (is this necessary?, to go that low?)
3. In Preferences/Audio/General I turn on the Low Latency Mode On, set Limit to 0ms (Zero Milliseconds)
4. Created a 1/4 note click track with Klopfgeist.
5. Just for reference, I converted to audio. Opened in the sample editor and it is indeed, exactly on the beat.
6. Set up my Roland Fantom as a Midi instrument. Channel 10 to trigger a Side Stick sound.
7. Create another 1/4 note click track.
8. Recorded the Rolands Output into my MOTU 2408 interface into Logic.
9 Opened up the waveform up in the sample editor, zoom in and notice it is obviously late.
10. Move the Anchor point 6 ticks to line it up,
Therefore, the incoming audio is off by 6 ticks.
Is it not possible to get 0 latency? I read the chapter in the manual but I believe this wasn't made clear, i could be wrong.
I have a guitarist coming over to record on my record in a week, I don't know how to deal with this except to move his entire track
by 6 ticks. ?

That is not really the type of latency that's affected by your audio I/O buffer setting. A DAW system has different types of latency, MIDI latency, latency caused by some plugins, AD/DA converter latency..etc. The six tics will probably remain the same or close to it if you're buffer is set to 64, 126, 256...etc.
Why do you have "Low Latency" mode selected, do you know what it's function is?
The I/O buffer setting affects two main aspects.
The response of the system when you play a virtual instrument, and...
...real-time monitoring of an audio input track. (this is an audio signal that passes through Logics audio engine and can use live effects)
The example using the Fantom requires MIDI sent to the keyboard and the audio into the MOTU passes through the AD converter.
What you want to set is the Record Delay so that your audio records in time, however... it needs to be set using a loopback test.
Use a 1/4 note recorded audio click (side stick) that you've adjusted to be perfectly on the beat copy it a few times. Use a cable from the MOTU's output to an open channel's input, record the click, compare.. now adjust the "Recording Delay" until the recorded click matches the first click.
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Hi there all together
I'm in serious trouble with my roland fantom g8. I linked it to my iMac via USB-Midi Cable and USB (fantom is said to be working like this). I also plugged in a line out from the fantom which goes into the audio input of the Mac.
Now, I'm still to stupid. Hitting the capslock I get sound from the fantom, but there's absolutely no midi transmission when I hit the keys of the fantom.
I made the environment as said in ninja's youtube-video:
Physical output to keys (incoming notes) to "showing notes" to sequenzer. Is there anything else I should do? In the physical output are the usb-midi-cable as well as the fantom. I changed the settings in the mac's in- and output as well.
Please help!
Kind regards from a helpless woman in Switzerland...
Adlerherz

You should never have to set up anything other than your usb connection from your fantom g8 to your imac. I have read posts on this forum where some members are responding to other members questions with the wrong information. The usb on the fantom G8 WILL transmit both audio and midi into an application. You may want to use an external sound device if your not satisfied with the quality of the recordings using the imac hardware, but that is another issue all together. I record HD audio (24/96) all the time directly from my fantom into my host application. That includes midi as well. Thought you might like to know....
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How do I get signal from my Roland Fantom G8 to Logic Studio or GarageBand?

My computer recently crashed, and since then I have not been able to record any music into either Logic Studio or GarageBand. I need to get back up and running ASAP, as I'm in the middle of recording music for 5 different projects. Here's all the gear that I have:
-1 Roland Fantom G8
-1 iMac with Logic Studio and GarageBand
-1 M-Audio Fast Track Ultra
-2 Rokit KRK Monitors
-1 USB cable
-1 midi cable
-2 1/4-inch cables
-2 1/4-in to XLR cables
The 2 1/4-inch cables run from Balanced Outputs 1 and 2 on the back on the Fantom G8 into Inputs 1 and 2 on the back of the Fast Track Ultra. The 2 1/4-inch to XLR cables run from the back of the 2 KRK monitors into Outputs 1 and 2 on the back of the Fast Track Ultra. The Fast Track Ultra is powered via USB cable that runs into a USB port on the back of my iMac. The midi cable runs from the "Computer" port on the back of the Fantom G8 into a USB port on the back of my iMac. This is the exact set-up I had before my computer crashed, and I was able to record just fine. When I open up the audio preferences on either Logic Studio or GarageBand now, it recognizes the Fast Track Ultra; however, it does not recognize the Fantom G8. What I'm trying to do is get signal from my Fantom G8 into both Logic Studio and GarageBand. I also want that sound to then project through my KRK monitors. I also want to be able to record audio and midi. Please help me!!!

I used the Fantom for several years and did exactly what you want to do. I simply plugged my Fantom into a channel on my mixer, in your case the 003. I ran a firewire out of my mixer (Presonus Studio Live) into my computer using Logic Pro X. Then I just assigned that incoming channel to a channel strip in Logic. As an example I used stero channel 9/10 on my mixer, (plugged in the Fantom here). Then the signal went via my mixer firewire to computer running Logic. I assigned my channel strip input to channel 9/10.
Does this make sense?
I just sold my Fantom last week and purchased a new Yamaha Motif XF8. Now I am trying to figure out the same thing on it.

Fantom x 8 with logic?

hello i have been wondering if it is possible to use the roland fantom x 8 with logic pro through midi controls and if i would be able to get sounds out of the phantom on to my mac? i have never used midi before only usb as a controller. any help would be great!

Hi,
You can use the Fantom in different ways:
1st: Send Midi Data to Logic (record Midi). By doing so, you can trigger one of the many fine software instruments of Logic.
2nd: Record the sounds of Fantom with Logic. This doesn't function with midi, but with an audio interface, which you should buy if you don't have one. (There are many interfaces that support both midi and audio)
3rd: Play back the sounds of the Fantom by sending midi data from Logic to your Fantom with an external midi track in Logic.
However, get yourself an audio interface. You'll need one anyway if you work with Logic.
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Midi sync my Fantom x8 with logic

Ok...hello everyone, ive been breaking my head on this one....I have my fantom connected to logic via Mbox2(midi out on the fantom is going to midi in on the mbox and midi out of the mbox is going to midi in on the fantom) and I can record MIDI coming in but when i play it back it doesnt trigger the patches on the fantom, it doesnt trigger anything...I want to be able to edit and sequence what I play on my fantom in logic....Can anyone help?

Do you have it set up for reception. What channel is it set to
recieve on? Do you have an external instrument object set up?

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Hi guys,
I'm a little in the fog here.
For the first time, I'm trying spdif OUT from my Roland XR sound module, to the spdif IN on my Mbox2 (firmware v1.24), to Logic Pro 7.1.1 on my Mac via the USB interface on my Mbox2. I would have thought this was simple.
[I bought this setup last October, and analog has always been no problem. Now I'm trying digital for the first time.]
Anyway, no audio is getting into Logic (I record enabled a track).
So to troubleshoot, I simply plugged some headphones into the mbox headphone output to see if it was even getting to, and out, of the mbox from the sound module. Audio isn't even showing up there. I'm looping the demo songs in the sound module so audio is constantly playing. I check the headphone output on the sound module and of course there's the audio, playing away.
FYI, Mbox 2 system preference on my mac is ridiculously absent of options. I can set my clock to internal or spdif. If I set it to spdif, sure enough, the spdif light on the front of the Mbox lights up, AND only when the sound module is on and connected. But none of this has helped my problem.
Does anyone know what I'm missing here?
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Aaron, I use a Fantom XR SPDIF output to record. The
thing you must remember is the XR's SPDIF will have
to be the Master Clock reference for Logic otherwise
you will get clicks and pops!
Check the settings in the Audio/MIDI setup under OSX.
You will need to set the Mbox2 as the master clock as
this is receiving the SPDIF input. Hopefully the Mbox
will detect SPDIF and accept that as Master.
Restart Logic and ensure you have sample rate set to
44.1Khz as that is what the frequency of SPDIF is.
I'm aware that this may sound complicated but at the
end of the day if you record from a SPDIF source, it
has to be the master clock for Logic.
Good luck, Rik.
Rik, I was wonder how this would work. When I tried to use
SPDIF with my Mbox1, I could never get Logic to see the
input. I am not sure it was supported. But I can use my
Saffire's SPDIF but I have never set it up as master. When
you mentioned it had to be the master clock, I went into Logic
to see if it showed up as a choice. For syncing Logic only has
choices for
internal
midi clock
MTC
Manual
which one should I use to make the interface the master?
Logic only mentions listening for MMC.
Thanks

Trouble effectively recording audio

I have my microphone hooked up through my Fantom G8 and I am using Logic Pro 8 software. My problem is when I try to record in Logic Pro, it will not recognize my microphone. This is weird because it recognizes it on the G8. Also, once I hit record in Logic Pro, the music that I am trying to record over will stop playing and I can hear nothing.
This is a mystery. I previously solved this problem by creating an aggregate device incorporating the Fantom G8 with the Built-In output and Built-In input and trying different orders of those three, setting the clock master to different ones. However, now it does not want to work consistently.
I am very familiar with creating an aggregate device. I understand that the order in which the devices within the aggregate device are placed determines the order in which they correspond to inputs and outputs, like 1-2, 3-4, etc. Maybe I am not setting up my audio tracks in logic properly. Should I put no output for the tracks I will be audio recording on, and no input on the track that will play the music?
Please give me some direction, it would be highly appreciated.. Bee Jay was very helpful initially, but the problem persists. Thanks.

Thank you. I am in the Southwest too, Tucson.
I have tried deleting all previous Aggregate devices. The Fantom comes up simply as Roland Fantom G 44.1 kHz. I wish it showed up as separate input and output devices so I could select only the Fantom Input, that potentially could make things easier.
I have always used both built in audio input and output, and now I will set built in output as the clock master, and since it will be first on the list on the aggregate device editor, it will correspond to outputs 1-2 on Logic, and the Roland if I put it second on the list should correspond to input 1.
Do you know if I should use stereo or mono on the logic audio tracks, or specify no input or no output, or if these things even matter?
You are right on about experimentation, thats all I have been doing. Its just puzzling because I had it working in the past without having to do all of this. I simply set up the aggregate device and I was in business. Right now if I open ableton, it plays the music through the built in output and I can record audio through the Fantom no problem, so its got nothing to do with the connections.
I am going to play with it for the next hour using your advice and then I will let you know what happens. I REALLY appreciate your help.
Message was edited by: Ojan36

Wait for note recording...

i am a noob. i admit. this is my first night with logic and i am having a hard time finding a "wait for note" recording option. i found where to change the count in but i was needing a wait for note because i am recording something previously recorded on my fantom. any help would be appreciated.

Well it is another beautiful day here in southern California. The smoke is so thick I can't even see the mountains a few miles away. Now that wind has shifted, It's all coming our way
Anyway, You have a few options to get your beats from the Fantom into Logic. Now if you want to get the midi notes into Logic. After you get a midi chord hooked up from the out of the Fantom to the input of your midi interface, and you can see you are getting midi signal, try this
1st you could just make sure both Logic and the fantom are the exact same tempo, set Logic to record and as close to a down beat as you can press start on the Fantom. After you record the part open either the Event list or the the Piano roll editor, selects all, and just drag your first note to be right on the beat, as long as all note are selected all will line up. If you have any timing drift and some notes are not lining up to the grid you can always quantize them
2nd you can always slave logic or the fantom to MTC (midi time code) so that they lock up real tight. how to do this is described in chapter 36 of the manual. if you want to slave logic to the Fantom you have to do it in MTC because Logic 8 no longer slaves to midi beat clock. After you look over the manual and you need further help on this ask.
If you have more that one midi channel that you want to send to logic, you can send them all at the same time and have logic separate them. Switch on the File > Project Settings > Recording > “Auto demix by channel if
multitrack recording” option. Then create as many tracks in logic that you have in the Fantom and set each Logic track to match the midi channels. then record enable them all, pressing the record button on each track. Chapter 14 page 382 explains multi-track midi recording.
You can also record all midi channels at once on to one track, and then from your region menu select "split/demix> demix by event channel" and that will separate all midi channels on to tracks
Anyway, this will get you started, let me know if you need more help
Don

Logic Pro and Fantom G?

Anyone using a Fantom G w logic and getting it to transmit midi? Just wondering if there's something in Logic I don't have set right...all my other synths seem to work properly....

Well i hope my explanation helps to solve you your provlem.
Firstly, Cheer up......cos ur gonna get away wid the problem wid dis........
Lets start.......
1. Install all the softwares that came with Fantom G6 ( Fantom G drivers & Fantom g editor).
2. Connect your Fantom G via usb to ur Macbook.
3. Launch Logic. It will search for all the available audio units (including FantomG).
4. Start Logic with empty project. Create a new external midi track.(I hope u kno how to create external midi track. (If not then check out Logic's manual).
5. Now at this point if everything goes well, then you may see that logic created a track named grand piano. On the right hand side you can see in library tabs that GM device first track is selected. Now u should see Fantom G there right above the GM device on the first place. Click on that & click on channel 1. Now you should see that your track name is changed to Prg 0=11.
6. If u did this much correct. you are done & you are finished with the tough part....:) cheers.
7. Now On fantom G click on studio mode. Now you are on internal mixer of fantom g. Select any instrument u wanna select..on the first channel (by default it shows G-grand) you can select any instrument.
8. Here is something important......now since you wanna record midi on Logic which is an external sequencer you will have to move to external mixer on fantom g. To do this you have to click F8 twice on fantom g. That will take you to external mixer
9. Select channel 1 on fantom g. Now go to Logic. & hit record (R)......Now you'll be able to record midi to Logic & u may see data entered in Logic's sequencer...........:)
10. Likewise you may build your song by creating new tracks just the way you created this one & selecting different songs.......
I hope this helped........
Any further problems........you're most welcome...:)

Recording with a Roland Keyboard and iMic

Hello there.
I have recorded with this setup before, but it has been quite some time and I could use a refresher to make sure that I'm doing everything correctly. In other words, way back then, everything worked beautifully, but now I forgot what to do.
GarageBand '09, Roland Fantom X8, iMic
How should I connect the Keyboard and the iMic? I assume I connect from the Phones output (as this is where the sound WOULD come out with headphones as there are no speakers), but is there something better.
What settings are required for the MacBook Pro?
What changes do I need to make in preferences in GB? Should I see something new?
Bear in mind that I am not recording MIDI, but direct-line sound (so the exact sounds coming out of the synthesizer; not a MIDI controller).
Any help would be epic fantastic. Thanks a bunch!

Ortaconic wrote:
I assume I connect from the Phones output
correct
but is there something better.
only if it offers a Line-OUT
What settings are required for the MacBook Pro?
none
What changes do I need to make in preferences in GB?
http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#recordusingaudiointerface
(Let the page FULLY load. The link to your answer is at the top of your screen)

Recording Fantom G8

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