Recording thousands of tapes using motu 828 and ST Pro

I have St and a Motu 828 firewire but older model to the actual. I have connected a tape deck to inputs 3 and 4 of the motu and I am trying to record tapes 24 bit and 48 Khz to further treat them but I cannot get the channels into ST audio File. Can someone help me out??

I wouldn't recommend using FCP for this type of recording. It doesn't like "on the fly" recording as much as it does batch digitizing of a source. STP would be much better for this. But, I wouldn't recommend firewire capture with STP! You have a couple of options. One, unless you get in to more serious recording, the audio input on the Mac is sufficient to use as an input. The problem is it's a mini plug and needs to be adapted. Most "pro" devoces are either 1/4", RCA, or XLR. This isn't a big deal. Adapters are found at Radio Shack and online. The other problem with this is most "pro" mics requre phantom power (+48v) to power the microphone. You can't just plug them into the computer. I use a small mixer for this. I have a 6 input Tapco mixer. Behringer, Samson, Mackie, and Tapco all make small mixers that will give you good flexibility and quality for about $100. They also have phantom power. Again, you'd just need to adapt the output to the computer's mini plug.
The other option would be to buy an audio card. M-Audio (www.midiman.com) offers several choices depending on need and budget. The 2496 card is sufficient for general purpose use. A couple of advantages to audio cards . . . they can give you better quality than the built in audio input. Not always. Depends on what you buy. They take some of the processing work from the computer. They have more flexible inputs and outputs. One disadvantage . . . they require a driver and software for routing. It can be a little confusing to use.
There are also USB options. The same website has products in this category. I have no direct experience with USB devices so I can't speak to their quality and reliability. My own preference would be the mixer or the audio card.
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