Recording to an external drive????

I have seen it posted in so many threads here that you should get a fast external FW hard drive, so I just wanted to clarify... is this specifically if you are planning to record multiple tracks at once??? I never really record more than one or two tracks at a time and I just use the internal drive on the usage meter it never even registers let alone overload...
Would recording 5 or 6 or 8 tracks really take me from barely a blip on the HD meter to overloading... or is it just that for whatever reason some people have had to go to an external FW drive to get this kind of performance for any kind of recording???

It's really a lot better to not put the read/write access strain on the same drive as your operating system, and no, recording 5 or 6 tracks simultaneously will barely register on your CPU meter. However, when those tracks are up to 24 stereo channels at 24 bit with a HUGE number of plug in effects, software synths, Native's "guitar rig 2", and a crapload of automation, your computer will be happier (and faster) grabbing all of that audio from another source and it can concentrate on processing, which if reading/writing on an internal drive while running the OS on the same drive can quickly eat up compute cycles and crash or wear out your drive. If you're just running a few tracks, the internal one is no problem, but the more your tracks grow,...................

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How & why Record with an external drive?

Hi. Okay, in another topic I posted it was recommended that I record with an external drive and not the internal drive... I have a 7200rpm firewire 400 lacie drive... so how do record with it? Why and how will this improve my Logic Pro recording experience? I also have a FirePod firewire interface.
Thanks,
Bill K.

To record onto an external drive, simply go to the audio menu and choose "Set Audio Record Path..." From here set your recording path to be somewhere on your external drive.
In general, it best to record to a drive other than your system drive. Depending on what you are doing, the system drive can be writing/reading cash files, data files and doing other Logic/OSX related activities in the background, all of which slows down your disk. You of course can still use your system drive to access data, but because its doing other operations, you may not be able to run as many audio tracks at once as you could using a dedicated external drive.
Try both methods and see which works best for you and your system.

Why does it take so long to start recording from my external drive?

I know the question its a bit long, I just wanna know why does it happen, or better what can I do so it stop happening...
I mean when Im recording using the drive from my macbook, it would not delay to start recording, but when Im working with the external drive and put it to record it takes like 40 seconds before its starts recording...
Im still learning so, please someone reply this concern ...
thanks

+Im working with the external drive+
Are you 100% sure that your external drive is formatted to Mac OSX Extended, with journaling off? (NOT FAT32 or NTFS) Select the disk and press command-I to find out.
If not, _back up all the data on the drive_, and reformat it using your Disk Utility (Utilities folder).

Recording Audio to External Drive

Hi, trying to record to an external firewire drive, seagate 7200 rpm, 16 mb cache. Recording 1 track 41.7k, 24 bit. About every 30-45 sec or so i get a hiccup in the recording. I monitored with the system performance window & the i/o section spikes when this happens. I've tried adjusting the buffer size, with no luck. I can record to the internal hd without any problems at all. Does anyone no how to fix this, or should I return the drive and get another brand?

select your drive in question - make sure ignore ownership is not checked and check that u have the fllowing permissions set:
You Can : Read & Write
Owner : You (Or your computer name)
Access : Read & Write
Group : You (Or your computer name)
Access : Read & Write
Others : Read & Write
after u have set thos - if they were not set already hit : Apply to enclosed items
now repari your disk permissions and restart....
1)when logic has booted after the restart go to "Audio COnfiguration" and delete the record path...
2) set the record path to your new drive and see if it has been fixed...
If not - do u have many firewire devices hanging on the bus???

Recommended way to format external drive?

Hi
I just bought a Lacie external drive because I want to start recording on an external drive instead on the internal drive of my iMac (running Tiger). However, the question of formatting and partitioning has arisen. My thinking is that it would be handy to use the drive to also back up my windows files, which relatively speaking, wouldn't take up much space on the (1 Terabite) drive.
So my question is: would it be best to format the whole drive space in FAT 32 (to enable Mac and Windows use for the whole drive) or would it be better to devote a small partition to FAT 32? That said, my disc utility window on the Mac doesn't appear to offer the FAT 32 option. There is, however, a "free space" option, which I assume is the option of leaving one partition open to future formatting as needed?
Alternatively, given my priority is recording, would it be best just to leave the whole drive in the MAC OS Extended format that it is currently in?

Some info on "journaling", why you need it, why you might not.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2355
It's good to remember that journaling can only help avoid corruption to the static file system. If your system crashes while recording there's no help for any files that were being written, if anything, the extra disk writing caused by journaling an audio drive could possibly cause wear & tear on the drive with no appreciable benefits. Personally, I leave it off on the audio drive.
On one system I have journaling off on the system drive, makes for a smoother OSX ride.
I gather that journaling (like MS indexing) was designed for servers that were continually accessing/writing many small files, it was a time saver if the system crashed as the drive didn't have to go through as long a verify process.
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External Drive and Logic Pro X

So I just bought a G-Tech 1TB G-DRIVE mobile Thunderbolt/USB 3.0 Hard Drive. Now, should I have Logic Pro directly record to this external drive during recording sessions as opposed to the local (internal) HD, or will there be some performance hit as a result? What is best practice?

Hi, try the following:
select the external HD in the finder and press >cmd-i<
unlock and make sure you are the owner
now choose >Apply to enclosed items……<
Have a nice day!

Internal and External Drive Recording Sequences

I have a QIP 7232 MR DVR (500 MD internal drive) with an eSata 1T WD drive attached. This external drive is one of those specified by VZ for this application. The system operates according to specifications and performs quite well. Just thought I'd pass along a recent observation about where content is recorded on the system.
As is well known, a setup like mine will record content to the external drive preferentially until it is full. When that happens, the system will record content on the internal drive. However evidently that's not always the case, as I learned recently while recording the French Open tennis tournament.
The program is being broadcast on Tennis channel HD, ESPN2, NBC, and probably a few other channels. I have chosen to record as much of the tournament as possible using the "Record Series" option for all channels. This results in quite a bit of recording time, somewhere in the neighborhood of 14 plus hours per day (20 hours a day on selected weekend days). That's almost more tennis than I can stand to watch, but so be it.
What I noticed is that the system does not in fact record exclusively to the external drive until it is full, but instead records some of the material to the internal drive well before the external drive is exhausted. This is the first time I've observed this behavior since setting up the equipment.
Some of the recordings are 9 hours long, so it appears that the system is taking that into account somehow and trying not to get into a situation with insufficient space on the external drive. However when this recording pattern was first observed, my external drive was showing about 80 hours HD content and roughly 53 % used capacity. It's possible that at some time during the last few days there actually was much more recorded material on the external drive and it defaulted to the internal drive for that reason. If that's the case, I did not notice it at the time, but in any case I don't recall ever seeing an indication of higher than approximately 73% on the external drive. I make it a practice to record selected material to DVD if I want to hold it permanently.
As I said all's working well but I just thought I'd pass along this apparently anomalous behavior.

Hi armond_in_nj,
Thanks for the info. I have no personal experience with this, but Walrus has an interesting post regarding his experience with this issue. Thought you might be interested.
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/Fios-external-DVR-storage-sequence/m-p/559...
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How do I copy the DVR recorded content to Laptop or any external drive.

How do I copy the DVR recorded content to Laptop or any external drive. Pl suggest.
Thx.

It is awkward but I have a Coax line out the DVR that goes to my Media Center Computer (which has the same multimedia software that is built into Vista) and then to my computer's TV tuner. (This is the same line out function that you use to send the DVR output to a VCR) Using my Media Center software, I can play the recorded DVR program and record that on my computer. Once in the computer, I can transfer the file by my wireless network to my laptop. It is a bit convoluted and requires a computer with a TV Tuner to record the program, but it can be done if I really want the item recorded to the computer.

Recorded 2 consecutive shows, one went to my External Drive and the other to the DVR any clues?

I recorded the Hatfield and McCoy programs the one which recorded @ 10pm went to the external drive and the one recorded right after at 12am went to the DVR. This just started around May 9th. We have done the Auto-Correct for our DVR and that has not solved the problem.

Are other shows recording to the internal hard drive as well? Once your show has recorded to either the internal or external drive, there's no way to move it to the other. So now that its recorded that way, its set. Please check newer recording to see if they are recording to the internal drive. It should only be recording to the internal drive if the external drive is full or the DVR is having problems.
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Record Tracks and Store Sample Library on an external drive

Is it better to store your sample library and record tracks on an external drive or your main hd? I was wondering which setup would give me an advantage and get less overloads.

I highly recommend that whenever you start a track you save it as "Project" in an external HD, this way you keep your system free. I still copy the folder on the internal, but I work out of the external. Your machine will thank you.
P.S. I recommend the Lacie firewire HD. I even take mine on the road and they are very faithful workhorses!

Recording directly to external hard drive.

So i have an external hard drive (with fire wire 800) plugged into my laptop and then i plug the camera into the external to record directly onto the hard drive instead of recording to my laptop. the camera ejects the external and forces me to have to record onto the laptop. how do i bypass this in order to record onto the external hard drive?

Even if the camera allowed you to connect directly to the external, that would be inadvisable because the data stream would have to travel both directions on the cable between the external and the computer: from the external to the computer to get to OL, then back again to be recorded. FireWire is not designed for such bidirectional data transfer. This configuration will likely produce latency of up to 2 seconds and can even result in dropped frames.
So the recommended configuration is to connect both the camera and the external drive to Firewire ports, ideally on separate IEEE1394 busses. Then, in order to record to the external, simply create your OnLocation project on the external drive.

Need Help! Recording to External Drive

I use MBox into Pro Tools Le 7.1.1 on my MBP and had some issues with Buffer Size where my recordings would stop on both record and playback telling me USB is withholding...change buffer size. I was told by the audio guys at Guitar Center that recording to the internal hard drive is just not good for audio recording and this is why I'm having that problem. So I plugged in my external drive (80 gb USB) and selected it when I was setting up a new Pro Tools Session. I then got a message saying something like "please select a drive where you can record audio." How can I record audio onto my external drive instead of my internal drive? Do I have to format the drive in a specific way? Any help is appreciated!
Thanks-
J

Hi Jay,
First, launch Protools and then the workspace browser within PT. If you look next to the icon of your new exernal drive, in one of the columns you will see either a "T", or an "R", or maybe a "P". ( I'm not at my system and am drawing a brain spasm at the moment.) At any rate, if the letter is anything other than an "R", click on it and you should be able to select the option to make that drive a recordable volume. Now when you go to create a new session you should be able to put it on your external drive. Give it a shot and let me know.
Tommy

2 external drives for samples/recording/backup - advice needed

Hi, all!
Recently, I experienced a system drive crash which had taken to nowhere land all my system software, as well as a lot of music applications including Logic Studio, Kontakt 3, plug-ins, etc. However, all my samples and recording projects were residing on a separate external drive and survived.
Now, to prevent such occurrence in the future, I am planning a backup system which includes the following:
G5 Dual 2.5 with 8 GB RAM running OS X 10.5.6
Echo Audio Layla 3G with an interface card installed in one PCI slots
PCI-X SeriTek/1VE2+2 interface card residing in 133 bus slot and connected via eSata ports to:
internally:
drive 1 - VelociRaptor 300GB - system (Logic, Kontakt, etc.)
drive 2 - VelociRaptor 300GB - backup of drive 1 (smart backup with SuperDuper)
externally:
drive 3 - OWC Mercury Elite 750GB (samples and recordings)
drive 4 - OWC mercury Elite 750 GB (backup? RAID 1 with drive 3?)
Drive 4 has just arrived and I would like to get the advice of the most efficient way of using two external OWC drives: RAID 1 configuration, or simply backing up the contents of drive 3 to drive 4 via SuperDuper? Forgive me my ignorant question as it is my first time dealing with various RAID configurations: will my drive 3 be erased if I try to arrange two Mercury drives as RAID 1 through disk utility?
Many thanks in advance for your help.
sercher

I use both methods, for different reasons.
I do use SuperDuper to clone my system drive, but I also use other strategies. The benefit of SuperDuper is that it makes a bootable backup. The drawback is that you have to manually run it, and it is advisable to not use your system while it is running.
For this exact reason, Raid 1 has huge benefits over a manual backup scheme, especially for drives writing new data often, or in great amounts. Whatever you write to disk 1 is simultaneously written to disk 2. No manual intervention necessary. If you use an external drive enclosure with a raid chipset in it, the setup is dead easy. Software raid is a different story although it achieves the same level of security. You would have to erase drive 3 to set up software raid with D.U., and it would be less efficient as it uses your system cpu.
Although I keep a bootable clone on hand as I said above, I use this mainly for testing new software (ie. 10.5.7). I use my laptop for many other purposes as well, so new data is added to the internal drive regularly, so I want constant backups: my strategy looks like this:
System backed up constantly using Time Machine (incremental, constant and transparent).
Bootable clones made weekly with SuperDuper.
All media data written to a hardware raid enclosure (I use a G-Raid mini 2, but there are much less costly alternatives). All photos in my Aperture library are referenced and reside on the raid drive, and all audio captured is also written to this drive.
Don't mean to step on any toes, hope this is useful info.
Jake

External Drives on MBP for recording

I'm a logic9 'power' user whose about to make 'as live' recording with 2 synth players and full rhythm section and 3 vocalists.
Historically I've recorded the standard way ie Logic9 on the internal drive and 2 discrete FW800 drives for samples and audio recording respectively. This was doable on my 2008 iMac but is no longer coping with current larger projects.
Enter the MBP
My issue comes from the lack of a FW400 port on the MBP for my Apogee Ensemble. At the moment I'm trialling a 24 track project including 2 software instruments streaming samples from daisy chained drives as follows
MBP FW800<LacieRugged500<FW400ApogeeEnsemble<FW400LacieRugged(Audio Drive
When all 26tracks are recording I'm getting just one of my 8 'cores' maxing out. Is the daisy chain causing this
I know its a Logic scenario but posted here cos I'm thinking distributing external drives across the various MBP ports may be the solution
Any suggestions??
Is there a decent FW800/400 Giant hub that you'd recommend?

This is how Id expect to see the MBP looking just prior to recording a bogstandard LP9 piano.
Now see below Even recording 6 simultaneously gives me just a little more strain on 1 thread
Now however cometh the problem. I really wanna use IVORYII . It sounds great and I have a top notch SSD MBP. BUT look at what happens below
And in fact the one thread actually maxed out a number of times causing the piano to 'distort' .
As I mentioned above my FW daisy chain is as follows
MBP FW800<LacieRugged500Gb(5400)<FW400ApogeeEnsemble< 2ndLacieRugged500Gb(5400)(Audio Drive
This is so frstraing What am I missing?
The self same project performs better on my 2008 IMac!!!

Format external drive for Mac and PC?

Can I format an external Drive to have 1 partition for OS X and another for my wife to use with her PC?
thanks!
ray

Yes, just use Disk Utility under OS X to create two volumes on it, one Mac OS Ext, the other FAT. Use a Master Boot Record partition scheme (also known as “fdisk”).

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