Recording Vocals 10.0.3 - Missing Live Performance Feature?!

Hey Guys,
I bought a new MacBook Pro, trying to record vocals on the updated version of GarageBand and the sound quality is less than ideal.
I used to use (LIVE PERFORMANCE) Vocal feature on version 6.0.5 which sounded great. Now with this update it has less then relevant options for a person trying to record demos and audition pieces...
Options like "Bright Vocal" or "Natural Vocal" sound poor next to backing tracks and live instruments.
Does anyone know of a recording setting on the latest version that mimics the 'Live Performance' setting of the old version... or maybe just a good setting in general for recording vocals in the latest version.... Kinda annoyed.

Make a backup, before you start to modify the Instrument library. You will need to move system files around.
All instruments are stored in the Instrument library - search for a folder "Library" at the top-level of your Macintosh HD.
/Library/Application Support/GarageBand/Instrument Library/
Your "Live Performance" should be here:
/Library/Application Support/GarageBand/Instrument Library/Track Settings/Real/Vocals/
Or
Copy all files over to the corresponding folder on your new mac, that are missing on the new Mac.
You may also want to transfer the old loops from /Library/Audio/Apple Loops/
Then restart the mac.
In your hidden User Library are corresponding folders.
~/Library/Application Support/GarageBand/Instrument Library/Track Settings/Real/Vocals/
That is where your custom instruments will be saved.
After restarting your Mac and opening GarageBand again you need to reindex the loops, if you installed the old loops as well. At the top of the Lopp browser is a pop-up menu to select a loop library. At the bottom of the panel you can select to rebuild the Loop Index.

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