Recursive BOM

Dear Gurus
How to calcualte Standard cost of a material (CK40N) through Recursive BOM
What are the steps to be followed and what are the precautions to be taken
Regards
Bala

Hi
I do not think, you need to follow any special procedure for std cost estimate calculation of Recursive BOMs.
Because, In the Recursive BOMs, 'recursivenss allowed' check box is enabled for recursive items in Recursive BOMs and hence system will not explode that item further during std cost estimate.
Please check and pass on info, if you find any difficulty.
Thanks
Jk

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Do you know what is missing?
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Dear,
Message no CK740?
Please do check the link below......
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/f8/a3e333bf3d11d189900000e8214595/content.htm
and OSS note : 858384
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Murali - Its possible to use multiple PV in sub contracting.
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Materials planning for Recursive BOM during MRP run

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We developed an recursive BOM as per production requirments , but we didn't know the impact of this recursive BOM during MRP run.
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Suresh Babu.S
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Hi,
This message was sent to us by SAP when we were having the same kind of requirement. Hope it will help you too.
Usage Probability
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I am having similar issue, Can any one help me in this regard.
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Scenario 1:
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To SAP GURU,
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Sanil,
what ever you mentioned is true , the only problem you are facing error is related to BOM level.
SFG-2 and its co product ( Co po -1 ) you are putting in same BOM level ( ie in the BOM of SFG-1 )thats why you are getting this error.
as Co Po-1 will be produced after the production of SFG-2 so it can be at lower level where SFG-2 is maintained.
Think on it , its logiocaly correct , your co product can be produced before your main product.
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Recursiveness in BOM

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I have a question. Recently we discovered that there are some recursive BOMs to be loaded into SAP during our migration. This was not anticipated, and therefore we're unsure how to proceed.
We know we can set the indicator 'recursiveness allowed' inside the BOM, so the item in the BOM is not checked for recursiveness. This seems to work, but we;re not clear on the implication to other SAP modules, especially with regard to CO. Does anyone have experience with this?
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If it is not anticipated, you mean this is not expected meas some thing is wrong with the file sent to SAP. Either you should findout the component and chan ge the BOM is not Recursive.
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BOM-Recursive

Hi All,
What is recursiveness allowed in BOMs

Hi Anand,,
If the header BOM material same you are using as a component then BOM become Recursive.
If you create a recursive BOM, you must decide whether you want to allow recursiveness or delete the component that caused the recursiveness,
Two users create a material BOM at the same time. Each user enters the BOM header material entered by the other user as a component.
One user saves the BOM. When the second user tries to save the BOM, the system recognizes recursiveness and sets the recursive indicator. The second user sees an online message about the recursiveness.
Please refer this link also,
[BOM-Recursive|http://help.sap.com/search/highlightContent.jsp]
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