RED Color Correction

I have heard that Color may be able to, or may soon be able to reconnect all of the media you have been working with (lower res files) to the raw R3D files for color correction.
Does anyone know if this is true. Or if upon output it then outputs at a higher resolution as your online?
Cheers,
Jesse

No number or release date for that version is yet available. What was being accessed, how it was being connected, rendered... proxy or not, was sort of sketchy -- logical output from a "Mysterium" sensor, I guess. They keep on telling us that we'll be working with the 4K files.... More will be revealed, I assume in the next few months. I just hope the Emperor is fully clothed.
jPo

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I'm re-editing a short shot on the RED. There's definitely some color correction applied to it. However, there are no video filters applied. I'm trying to figure out what was done to achieve the color correction. When I copy the clip to a different sequence, the color correction disappears. I don't want to ask the filmmakers that gave it to me because I don't want to sound baffled, which I am. Does anyone have any idea how footage can be corrected within FCP without filters?

No number or release date for that version is yet available. What was being accessed, how it was being connected, rendered... proxy or not, was sort of sketchy -- logical output from a "Mysterium" sensor, I guess. They keep on telling us that we'll be working with the 4K files.... More will be revealed, I assume in the next few months. I just hope the Emperor is fully clothed.
jPo

I downloaded CS6 Red Plug-In and added to Package Contents, replaced the current files with the new without backing up, now my RED footage thumbnails and color-correction don't WORK! How do I get my old importerRed file back!!?? HELP!

I downloaded CS6 Red Plug-In and added to Package Contents, replaced the current files with the new without backing up, now my RED footage thumbnails and color-correction don't WORK! How do I get my old importerRed file back!!?? HELP!

Try asking in the Premiere Pro forum seems to be an Adobe Lab for Premiere Pro

RED Raw color correction with "curves"

Hi there,
i was wondering, if, when i am color correcting RED Raw files with the effect "curves" (for example) am I working with the full dynamic range of the RAW footage?
Is the range different, if I work in the RAW-Ediotr that i reach through the "interpret footage" dialogue box?
We are trying optimize the workflow for a certain project and would rather use effects on the footage layers, rather than interpret them (yeah, we´re really lazy).
Thanks a mill,
Björn

Yes, you are working with the full range from the .r3d files when applying effects in After Effects. In fact, you have more problems with colors clipping if you manipulate things like exposure in the RED settings than if you manipulate them in After Effects with effects (though that is better now than it used to be).
You should work with your project in 32-bpc color to make sure that you're preserving color information all the way through the pipeline.

How do I load color corrected RMD (RED) files in CS5.

I have edited RED footage in cs5.
I now have received color corrected RMD files - however I don't see the color correction on any clips in the timeline.
What do I need to do to make sure edited footage (R3D files) on the timeline reflect color correction.
I tried replacing footage, it didn't work - if I import the R3D again, apply the cuts and place on timeline I see color correction but I am sure there's a better way to do this. Any pointers will be great.
Thanks.
RV

The following text from Adobe seems to indicate that there is "more" with CS5.5:
(taken from: http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.displayTab2.html#REDSupport)
The RED R3D Source Settings dialog box in Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 offers extensive control over the look of RED raw footage. In conjunction with the ability to change color settings per clip, you can save combinations of adjustments as custom presets, which can be applied to individual or multiple clips. The controls in the Source Settings dialog box include:
Debayer Detail — Vary the level of detail extracted from the image sensor.
Chroma — Denoise the red/blue channels.
OLPF Compensation — Eliminate color Moire fringes by controlling the optical low-pass filter (OLPF) that refines edge detail.
Maximum Bit Depth — Use this global setting to choose between 32-bit float and 8-bit.
White Balance — Manipulate Kelvin, Tint, and Saturation levels.
Timecode — Select the timecode track to use from the R3D file.
Color Settings — Adjust the ISO setting, exposure, red, green, blue, brightness, contrast, and highlight levels.
Color Space — Select the desired color space from among Camera RGB For RAW; Rec 709, the standard color space for HD; and REDspace, which is a more saturated variation of Camera RGB.
Gamma Curve — Override the gamma curve selection using several preset gamma curves.
User Curve — Use a custom curve created by the camera operator.
Jim

Color correction, color profile, colorsync, wide gamut,

There hasn't been any reply to the threads about color inconsistency in OS X, so I'm starting another one.
I'm using a wide-gamut monitor attached to a Mac with built-in display. When Preview displays an image, it applies some color correction to it. This leads to unnecessary color warping.
If the image is solid red, #FF0000, it displays it as orange, #FF2500. If I copy and paste the image, it further warps the color to brownish-orange, #DF4616 or the like.
For example, this image, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Solid_red.png , shows up fine in Firefox, but when it's color "corrected" thorough Preview or other OS X applications, it becomes something like http://i.imgur.com/gDiTE.png
Please, before commenting about color calibration, note that *this is not a monitor calibration issue*. My monitors are calibrated well, and no recalibration can fix this.
This is an OS X color correction issue. OS X applies and re-applies color correction schemes, resulting in warped colors on anything but sRGB monitors. This corrupts image colors whenever they are handled.
Someone, please address this long-standing issue.

These forums are the wrong place for getting Apple's attention to your issue. If you want to report this issue to Apple's engineering, send a bug report or an enhancement request via its Bug Reporter system. To do this, join the Apple Developer Connection (ADC)—it's free and available for all Mac users and gets you a look at some development software. Since you already have an Apple username/ID, use that. Once a member, go to Apple BugReporter and file your bug report or enhancement request. The nice thing with this procedure is that you get a response and a follow-up number; thus, starting a dialog with engineering.

Color Correction Novice rounding home stretch w/ a Q

Hi,
So far, I've received some valuable advice & tips for my 1st attempts at color correction, esp since my production falls outside the normal applications. The help has been great!
I went thru my production and did scene by scene corrections, which lost most of its intimidation with enough practice. I still havent tackled the Keyframe approach to having corrections shift during the course of a scene - I'm hoping to escape without having to do that.
Heres my question -
I did all the corrections, with a calibrated external monitor, and then had the program render all the video effects. Then I chose "print to video". When the program ran, the colors were a little different overall than what I had set in the program (less orange, more pink) and in a few scenes (orig underexposed, but corrected in the process), the color shifted more radically, esp in the shadow / black values which fell greenish.
I didnt see any of this as I was correcting, and the signal path was the same when I printed to dvd, same monitor w/ no calibration changes.
Is this normal? Maybe these shifts happen more discreetly in reg productions, mine is a live stage shoot with a lot of red light.
Thanks for all the help, & Happy New Year
Duane
G5 tower Mac OS X (10.4.2)

Hi,
Thanks for all the info, I'm starting to look at ways of sending what I have to people who need to see it. The project will likely still require some tweaking so this isnt a final mastering step by any means. Just looking for something that looks as good as what I see on the monitor after rendering.
Its looking like (from the lasts posts) that 'out thru firewire -> dvd recorder' isnt the best choice & if I can keep it in the computer & flow it directly to its burner, the opportunities for problems can be minimalized.
I tried exporting to quicktime, that resulted in an FCP Quicktime file that took 3 hrs to create & was almost 13 gig. (program is 50 min) so it looked great but was too huge to put onto a disk.
If anyone has guidance in this area, I'd appreciate it. I'm gonna poke around in those options & then likely post a further question seperately on this subject. I want to get it onto a dv disc via toast 6 (I see Quicktime w/ Compression is an option so I'm gonna explore that)
Thank you all again for the correction help, in that 13 gig version, it looked really great (no green in shadow artifacts ! )
Regards,
Duane
G5 tower Mac OS X (10.4.2)
G5 tower Mac OS X (10.4.2)
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Color correction novice back with a problem/question.

Hi,
I have been working on color correction for an edit of a live 2 camera shoot concert. Edits are almost all final. I dug into correcting color between the 2 cameras & after some practice got good results.
Tho, I noticed that corrections looked slightly different after rendering them, and again slightly different after exporting to full uncompressed quicktime video.
Saturation levels shifted (less), & some shots showed slightly different color balance. This is a unique shoot because the stage was fully lit in red light & red can be one of the most difficult colors in video (in my experience).
So I eventually started that vicious cycle of correcting not by eye but by anticipating what was needed to get a desired result after rendering & exporting... each time it was lengthy renders & exports before seeing the results.
So I had several versions of the project saved w/ different renderings, etc. All of this is stored on a 250 gig 2nd internal drive which I bought & installed just for editing. All files & edit lists etc were kept there.
So I'm trying to look at different versions after having to put the project aside for a couple of weeks, and every version I open shows me a list of render files that it says it can't find. I've just been choosing to re-render.
(I'm wondering if a routine session of running disk warrior on my drives could have contributed to this?? Thats the only thing I can think of, other than the OSX upgrade to 10.4.4, which also included a quicktime upgrade.)
I'm new at this so I'm trying to figure out if this disappearance of render files is normal? In one version I chose 'search computer for render files' or something to that effect & I watched it go thru my drives one after another & when it got to the 2nd internal drive (where all the render files should be), it spent about 1/10th the time that it spent searching other drives. It really jumped in & out of that drive really quickly.
Its not all the render files that are missing, I looked in the render folder & some have older dates, while a section of them are from tonite when I re-rendered. Then more with the older date.
Anybody have any advice?
Thanks for your help
Duane
G5 tower Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Hi,
I have been working on color correction for an edit of a live 2 camera shoot concert. Edits are almost all final. I dug into correcting color between the 2 cameras & after some practice got good results.
Tho, I noticed that corrections looked slightly different after rendering them, and again slightly different after exporting to full uncompressed quicktime video.
Saturation levels shifted (less), & some shots showed slightly different color balance. This is a unique shoot because the stage was fully lit in red light & red can be one of the most difficult colors in video (in my experience).
So I eventually started that vicious cycle of correcting not by eye but by anticipating what was needed to get a desired result after rendering & exporting... each time it was lengthy renders & exports before seeing the results.
So I had several versions of the project saved w/ different renderings, etc. All of this is stored on a 250 gig 2nd internal drive which I bought & installed just for editing. All files & edit lists etc were kept there.
So I'm trying to look at different versions after having to put the project aside for a couple of weeks, and every version I open shows me a list of render files that it says it can't find. I've just been choosing to re-render.
(I'm wondering if a routine session of running disk warrior on my drives could have contributed to this?? Thats the only thing I can think of, other than the OSX upgrade to 10.4.4, which also included a quicktime upgrade.)
I'm new at this so I'm trying to figure out if this disappearance of render files is normal? In one version I chose 'search computer for render files' or something to that effect & I watched it go thru my drives one after another & when it got to the 2nd internal drive (where all the render files should be), it spent about 1/10th the time that it spent searching other drives. It really jumped in & out of that drive really quickly.
Its not all the render files that are missing, I looked in the render folder & some have older dates, while a section of them are from tonite when I re-rendered. Then more with the older date.
Anybody have any advice?
Thanks for your help
Duane
G5 tower Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Re: my notebook doesn't display the red color

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Since updating the graphics driver last week I have noticed the colour red seems more pink or purple. This is particularly notable as a lot of my buttons and icons contain scartlet as the principle colour. I only purchased the laptop in August so I doubt this is due to a deteriation of the hardware and therefore seems to be an issue with either the display driver or the display settings.
I have attempted to rectify the problem by resetting the display settings to default.
This partidular model does not appear to have any contrast settings built into the controls, therefore I have no way to adjust the colours manually.

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Lightroom 4 won't save color correction to .R3D file

Really didn't have problems until export. I'm amazed with how fast Lightroom plays playback on .r3d files. Anways after all the color correctrion is done I try to export the file to its original format (r3d) but upon playing the file in Red Cine-X, non of the color corrections I made are saved. It's as if I didn't edit the file at all. However if I choose to save the file as a H264 and play the file, all my corrections are saved. So it only doesn't work if I choose to export my file as the original R3d format. Anyone know whats wrong or how to solve this?

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We have a monitor on set that is used as part of the background. Of course it comes up blue on camera. I've tried adding various amounts of a red overlay to my projects, but I still can't seem to get it right. I know there's no magic formula, but does anyone have a suggestion of how much of what color to use that would at least get me in the ballpark?

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Underwater Color Correction--D800 Video

I just came back from a dive trip to Cozumel and tried my new D800's video capabilities.
I'm happy to report that, with color correction in FCP, the D800 does a great job without a red filter or lights.
I didn't have much chance to experiment with this--too many other new things to try--but here's a quick preview.
This is an uncorrected frame shooting without lights, auto white balance and programed exposure and shutter speed in about 40 feet of water (sunny day topside):
I did a quick and dirty color correction using the three way color correction tool in FCP. Not surprisingly, the corrections added red:
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Are there any plugins available for PrE 10 to do proper color correction ?
By default there is a 3-way color corrector but it is quite limited (no range definition for midtones, no secondaries). There is a "Color Fixer" in NewBlue Video Essentials but it appears to be mostly automatic. Basically what I am looking for is something similar to Colorista or Color Finesse that is compatible with PrE.

As Premiere is not a Color Managed Workspace, the calibrated computer monitor will not be 100% correct. To do advanced CC, I think that you will find Adobe After Effects (a Color Managed Workspace) to be more what you are looking for. PrPro adds many CC Effects, but is still not a Color Managed Workspace, so one needs to output to a calibrated broadcast monitor for critical CC work.
Also, as Video is likely displayed on myriad devices, from computer monitors to a plethora of TV sets (of various levels of calibration), one can only CC to broadcast standards, and then hope for the best with the viewer's equipment. PrE is designed for consumer output, where PrPro includes broadcast capabilities and After Effects is designed around broadcast. The difference between PrE and PrPro is similar to a comparison of Photoshop and Photoshop Elements, in that Photoshop offers CMYK output for commercial printing, where PSElements does not.
Until fairly recently, PrE offered scant few Effects to manually CC footage. The addition of the Three-way CC Effect is a big bonus, but as you have found out, for broadcast work, it is lacking.
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Color correction slows down editing

In CS 5.5 I adjusted the curves for color correction for the first time and then renedered the 12min video for 1hour 20min. I now see a couple of minor clip edits I want to make. However, Premiere is acting very slow and choppy. Is the color correcting I did slowing the edit process down?

Truthfully, what I would recommend is to turn off all CC,
edit, nail your timings... then color correct.
I always have considered and treated CC as a 'final touch'
that can't really be done full justice until the cut itself is solid.
But...
If you have clips that really need to be CC'ed as you are editing,
you should Preview Render those clips for smooth playback
in the Timeline as you continue to edit.
Also:
Red, yellow, and green render bars and what they mean
http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2011/02/red-yellow-and-green-render-bars.html

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I have a "problem image." It's a photo of an important man making a speech in the city where I live. It was an outdoor ceremony under a tent made of partly transparent white and red strips. It cast a slightly pinkish color on him. I tried a simple color correction, but pushing the control all the way toward cyan had no effect. Is there a method to handle this?

That photo is hugely oversaturated, with a small shift to magenta. Use Image - Adjust - Hue/Saturation, then maybe bump up the contrast with Curves or Brightness/Contrast.
Finally, you might want to brush lightly over his face with the Dodge tool set to Midtones and Protect Tones to bring some fill light in.
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