Red Digital Cinema and JPEG 2000?

I wonder if Premiere Pro 4.0 will suport the Red Digital Cinema cameras and the new Grass Valley JPEG 2000 cameras. I imagine there will be something new for Premiere Pro at NAB this year.

>What features can we expect to see?
Read Jim's answer again
If anyone here is also a Beta tester, they will have signed an agreement not to talk about the software
Anyone else who says anything doesn't have the software and is therefore only speculating
When Adobe issues a press release or shows the product at a computer show, we will all know
Right now, we don't even know IF Adobe is working on a next version, or IF they are having the programmers continue to refine and fix bugs in the current version

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Photoshop CS4 and JPEG 2000

Does anybody know how to download the JPEG 2000 plug-in for Adobe Photoshop CS4 Extended? I just checked my install discs and the plug-in is not on there. Please help! Thank you!

here it is: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4050

Sequence settings changed and digital cinema freezes. what now?

hello there.
i'm a new fcp user and i could really use some help on some issues that came up while working on a film project.
the material was captured with the camera function of a digital still camera, which resulted in rushes of .avi format, 30 fps, 640X480 frame size.
we then converted these into .mov clips using quicktime and compressor so that we can work without the need to render. we encoded them using the Apple ProRes 422 codec.
i opened a NTSC project to work on this and have created a sequence preset having exactly the same settings as my clips (Apple ProRes 422, 30 fps, etc).
i'm cutting the whole project on a macbook pro (see details below) running fcp 6.0.3 and i'm using a second monitor toggling between browser and digital cinema desktop preview.
everything was working fine till yesterday, when suddently some sequences needed rendering (while they were working fine till then) and dcdp freezed (that is i get the first frame and i can hear the sound when i playback a clip or a sequence and then i get the current frame when i stop it).
i've checked the sequence settings and i've found out that all of my sequences are now pal, 720X576, 25 fps. that's the first part of the problem. i tried changing the sequence settings, but of course i cannot change the frame rate; i've tried creating a new sequence with the correct settings and then copy&paste the clips from the prev sequence but then video and audio go out of synch by 2 frames. how did my settings changed all of a sudden? is there a way to keep my edited sequences without the need to manually re-cut the whole thing?
as far as the second part of the problem is concerned (the dcdp not working anymore), i've tried changing my settings (going from full screen to raw, trying single frame against all frames, etc) but still it doesn't work. the rest of the settings are ok (eg. i've found in the forum that the checkbox about playback mirrored on the desktop should be ticked and it was already).
this computer is never conected to the internet and it has never been manually updated (so there is not a way that an OS update is not working well with fcp).
any ideas?
thanx,
nikos.

I've experienced the exact same problems you are having and it's driving me nuts.
It's not like my system has changed. I bought the Mac Pro and Final Cut Studio together and all was well when I first installed it. That initial project was an HDV project and DCDP worked great.
Since then I'm working mostly on SD PAL projects and when I go to preview it on the desktop it does the first frame freeze when you hit play and parks on the current frame when you hit stop.
I can resize the main edit window to full size and the sequence plays back fine but when I go to DCDP it just won't play at all. It feels like a bug but this is the first time I have found someone else with the same problem. By the way, I'm only using one monitor so the mirror desktop thing made no difference.
I know the DCDP isn't great quality but it's fine for getting a general overview and I sure do miss it.
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JPEG 2000 2.0 and PSE7

In Photoshop Element7 i can open a file saved as JPF (JPEG 2000 2.0) but i can't duplicate, do layers or do color variation with the image with the english version. I had the French version of PSE7 with no problems at all saving in JPEG or doing layers. Now when i'm saving in JPEG 2000 there's a new popup window and this is one of the message that i get (select options to save in extended JPEG2000 format(JPF) including an option to ensure comptability with minimal JPEG 2000 format (JP2) Selecting JP2 forces additional color contraints. Roll over an option...)

I assume your JPF file is in 16 bit mode. Elements is rather limited in
handling such files. You need to convert to 8 bits: >Image >Mode >8 bit
mode.
Juergen

HDV and Digital Cinema View.

Hi I am using Digital Cinema View for playback of my timeline (View>All Frames) and the images seems to have traces (horizontal lines is best way I can describe) and text (like rendered Motion titles for example) looks poor too. My playback is set to Dynamic. My project is in HDV 108050i. I was assuming that the image quality would be the same as in the canvas (which looks great), but perhaps I'm missing something. Is it because the files have not been conformed?? When I watched a Print to Video, the image quality was perfect as you'd expect. I'm watching on a Mac 23" Cinematic Display on a Xeon Quadcore Mac Pro, 1Gb ram, external Lacie HD fw800 connected. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Alex.

Alex,
I have to admit that I don't have an external monitor, so... I've given you the best guess I have. It is odd that the fully rendered video doesn't play "clean".
You can certainly try "single frames" and post if that helps, kinda doubting that it will, but I really don't know.
Sorry, but I just don't have enough experience with all this to be able to offer more help. I was really hoping that someone who really knows this stuff would jump in and set everything straight.
As for "conforming", as far as I know, it is the process the computer goes through to make your computer a clean export (a render type action). Because of the way HDV is as a format (e.g. Highly Compressed) the computer has to work really hard to give you an image. The Conforming process "magically" makes that go away by putting the computer time in on the front end. So, while "Confroming" is an output action, it explains why without that your "output" to your screen isn't as nice looking.
Hope that makes sense and helps.
~Luke

JPEG 2000 and Adobe Photoshop Elements 9

I've recently switched from APE5 to APE9 and noticed that my .JP2 files wouldn't open in APE9. I also noticed that a JPEG 2000 file extension wasn't available as one of the File Type options that APE9 could open or save to. Am I missing something? Is there a trick to get APE9 to recognize JPEG 2000 file types? Is there a plug-in I need to download? If there isn't anyway to get APE9 to open JPEG 2000 files, any recommendations on software out to that can do this for me? Freeware preferred.
Jay

There is no plug-in. Adobe dropped support for jpeg 2000 in PSE 8. If you have a mac, you can use Preview to save in another format. For windows, try Imagemagick (www.imagemacick.org), which is free.

Problem with "Insufficient data for image" and embedded JPEG 2000 Images

I frequently download pdf from the http://www.glorecords.blm.gov web site. They are reporting a problem with Reader Reader 10.1.4 and the pdf files they have.
"("Insufficient data for image" and embedded JPEG 2000 Images)"
I am experiencing the same "Insufficient data for image" error when opening their downloaded pdf and viewing in ACROBAT X 10.1.4.
Can someone address this please?
Win 7 sp1

Read this:
http://blogs.adobe.com/dmcmahon/2012/08/21/acrobat-insufficient-data-for-an-image-error-af ter-updating-to-10-1-4-or-9-5-2/

Jpeg 2000 - news and advice

I need to know if there is a plug in for jpeg2 -- for ps-4, on Mac, and if any one has found this to be a good/better format for small cameras?

There are plugins available on the web if you are interested. But looking at info below you might want to consider that since it is not widely used you may have trouble sharing picutres with others in this format.
This from wikapedia
While there is a modest increase in compression performance of JPEG 2000 compared to JPEG, the main advantage offered by JPEG 2000 is the significant flexibility of the codestream. The codestream obtained after compression of an image with JPEG 2000 is scalable in nature, meaning that it can be decoded in a number of ways; for instance, by truncating the codestream at any point, one may obtain a representation of the image at a lower resolution, or signal-to-noise ratio – see scalable compression. By ordering the codestream in various ways, applications can achieve significant performance increases. However, as a consequence of this flexibility, JPEG 2000 requires encoders/decoders that are complex and computationally demanding. Another difference, in comparison with JPEG, is in terms of visual artifacts: JPEG 2000 produces ringing artifacts, manifested as blur and rings near edges in the image, while JPEG produces ringing artifacts and 'blocking' artifacts, due to its 8×8 blocks.
JPEG 2000 has been published as an ISO standard, ISO/IEC 15444. As of 2012[update], JPEG 2000 is not widely supported in web browsers, and hence is not generally used on the Internet.

Digital Cinema Desktop Preview, keyboard layout and other bugs - Leopard

I just reinstalled my Mac Pro because I hoped it would fix some bugs... but no luck. Digital cinema desktop preview (dcdp) was working just fine until I installed the Aja Kona Lhe software, afterwards only dcdp for the main display was working, both dcdp and dcdp "full screen" have disappeared. The other things I was hoping 10.5.2 would fix are the problem FCP cannot remember the keyboard layout I use (azerty-belgium) - every time I start the program I have to choose the layout again - and the fact I cannot export using compressor straight from FCP using qmaster: Final cut pro generated an error! (this has never worked)
If you are having the same problems as I do, maybe we should compare hardware to see what we have in common that could be causing this problem. As I have found during my searches, some computers have similar problems, others don't, sometimes it also matters if you've upgraded from Tiger of did a clean install, where upgrading it seems (yes really!!) gives the least problems...
I really hope there will be a bugfix soon, because I'm sure I'm not the only one having these problems... or maybe I should just install Tiger and upgrade...???

I vote for going back to Tiger. That is known to be stable. Leopard and FCP is unpredictable at the moment.
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IMac Intel FCP and digital cinema preview

i've just recently upgraded from a g4 powerbook to an intel iMac 20" and curently running 10.4.7 and FCP 5.01. On the powerbook i was running FCP 4.5 and using a TV monitor as a 2nd monitor via the digital cinema preview. Yesterday i bought the mini-dvi to video adapter and plugged in the TV and am unable to get a preview through the TV. I get the extended desktop and even Shake recognises it as a monitor. Im thinking maybe its a Universal thing, my crossgrade arrives next week, or more disturbing perhaps the video card which is the NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT which i cant see on the FCP recomended page??
anyone have any ideas??
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imac intel 24" Mac OS X (10.4.7)

hey everyone who is interested, finally discovered after some research that FCP digital cinema PREVIEW is ONLY supported in AGP cards (such as that exist in powerbooks etc) and does not support the PCI range. So i guess it is means running it through the camera or a canopus type bridge (sound of cash disappearing) thanks mac! You had a great, simple and elegant solution then just threw it away.

Rendering as 10-bit/12-bit color (JPEG 2000?)

I'm not trying to create a digital cinema package (DCP) per se, but I've got a few questions related to rendering in bit depths greater than 8-bit.
NOTE: The digital cinema standard (PDF link, see page 31) for package distribution is JPEG 2000 files with 12-bit color (in XYZ color space)...packaged into the MXF container format.
1. I'm wondering if it's possible to render to any 10-bit or 12-bit color format within After Effects. Let's assume my source is a 16bpc or 32bpc comp, and I render it to the QuickTime container and select JPEG2000 or one of the other variants. None of them seems to go above "millions of colors", or 8-bit. (The one that has the option of "millions of colors plus" still only renders to planar 8-bit [YUV 4:2:0] when I inspect its streams and metadata.)
2. In the QuickTime container list, what are "Motion JPEG-A" and "Motion JPEG-B"? These aren't standards with which I'm familiar, and I can't seem to find any detail in the documentation as to what these actually are. (In all my tests, they're limited to 8-bit color.)
3. Is the JPEG 2000 codec that's available via QuickTime the same JPEG 2000 codec that's literally the full ISO/IEC 15444 or SMPTE 429-4 standard, or some crippled bits-and-pieces version?
Obviously, I can render to TIFF or OpenEXR sequences in 16bpc or full float...I was just wondering if it was possible to get 10-bit or 12-bit color in a standard container via After Effects CC or Premiere Pro CC (via Media Encoder CC).
I see the "render at maximum bit depth" option in Premiere Pro, but I've never found a format/container that would output anything higher than 8-bit color...even with 16bpc or 32bpc input media.
Thanks for your help and insight.

If you want highter bit depth J2K, you have to render to image sequences. The baseline QT implementation is from the stone age. Perhaps there's some commercial third-party Codec out there or if you have such hardware, you could use Blackmagic's, but off the bat there is nothing usable in QT as far as I know.
Mylenium

JPEG 2000 conversion

A client just asked me to deliver a video in JPEG2000. I don't see it as a export option. I did however reset my sequence settings to JPEG2000 compression, but what do i do next. I am so not familier with this format.
Scott

Sorry, I know nothing about JPEG 2000 except that it is used for both very low end delivery such as mobile phones and very high end work like digital cinema.
For grins, I took a sequence I was working on, set the sequence settings from ProRes to JPEG 2000, rendered, and it would not play back at all on my 8-Core in FCP.
Exported that rendered timeline to a QuickTime movie, and it will play in QuickTime 7 Player, but only at 15 - 20 fps.
We'll have to wait until someone with more knowledge steps in.
MtD

DD 5.1 Surround Workflow to create TS file for Digital Cinema

I need a little help.
My objective is to create a test file for digital cinema. The client requires at the end a TS DD 5.1 mpeg HD file....
I have tried creating the project in Premiere CS4, which is straight forward. The issue I have is in the export. I have been using the surcode plugin. The first question I have is in the routing of the channels. I can only seem to create a Premiere project with the layout of L,R,Ls,Rs,C,LSE where as the surcode only gives you the layout option of L,R,C,LSE,Ls,Rs, which I believe is the industry standard...so I have no idea if the plugin will read the channel allocation correctly.
However, my bigger issue is that I'm not able to export a TS file from Premiere. There is an option to do so, but when I try that with the surcode plugin, the media encoder just crahses...
I have been able to create a single 5.1 surround mpeg file from Premiere with the surcode plugin, but its of no use to the client..and I can't think of a way that would turn it into a TS file that would keep the 5.1 DD.
I have many questions, and there are many things I don't understand...so if anybody is able help at all that would be wonderful.
Many thanks

What will be the playback medium of this file? How will you deliver the file? Will the client be playing the file on a computer, or on a Home Theater system? Does the client want, or need, a visual signal, as well, or it just the Audio signal that is important?
The best delivery system that I can think of is to create your material in PrPro in a 5.1 SS Project. Unless the client is looking for just the Audio with no Video, handle the two as separate, in that once your mixing is done, you will Export the Audio as an MPEG file, in the AC3 format, with the DD 5.1 SS encoding from the Minnetonka Audio SurCode DD 5.1 SS plug-in. Export the visual material (Video) as a DV-AVI Type II elemental stream. Go to Encore, and Import the DV-AVI as a Timeline, then the AC3 as an Asset. From the Project Panel, drag the AC3 to the respective Timeline, and author a DVD. You can have menus for navigation, if needed, or just make the single Timeline your First Play, with no Menus. If you want it to Loop, set its End Action back to itself and it'll loop until the user hits Stop. Once the layout is as you wish, you have two choices:
Burn to a DVD disc for delivery, or Burn to Folder. The former will get your 5.1 Audio (and Video) onto a common DVD for play on the computer or in a Home Theater system. The latter will yield the VIDEO_TS folder with the necessary files contained within this folder. The Audio & Video will be in a .VOB format, but will be in MPEG-2 form. Note: this will be a DVD-Video disc, and playable in any DVD player. Whether one hears the Audio in stereo, or in SS, will depend on the capabilities of their playback system. Because it IS a DVD-Video it MUST contain Video. Now, this could be anything you choose, from Titles with instruction, to Black Video (I'd create this for real, rather than rely of purely the systhetic Black Video from Premiere - more on this, if you need it), to abstract patterns of your design, or choosing.
Now, if one needed just the pure MPEG-2 file, outside of the VIDEO-TS structure for playback on a computer only, you could take the .VOB and rename its extension .MPEG, instead of .VOB. Still, the playback channels would be solely dependent on the equipment the file was played on. The software player might figure into this, as well, because it must have the capability to process DD 5.1 SS signals. Check out any software player that your client will be using. If you deliver the DVD-Video disc, mentioned above, a DVD software player will be required. Most computers today come with one, and most of these are DD capable, but again, it depends on the hardware on the computer, and how it's configured, that will determine if one hears the Audio in stereo, or in DD 5.1 SS.
Before I launched off doing anything, other than editing and mixing, I would ask some very specific questions. As Harm points out, there is no TS "file," but a TS "folder." This would be a red flag for me, indicating that the client might be confused, or know just a little and not quite get the full picture. This would dictate to me, that I need to ask some other questions and phrase them in a way that yielded useful info and instructions to me.
1.) Exactly what equipment will you wish to play this material (don't start talking files yet)?
2.) Is this equipment capable of playing Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound?
From the answers to those two questions, you can then start filling in the blanks.
If the client wants something to drop into a DVD player, hooked up to a DD 5.1 SS capable system, then you’re home free. If they want something that will play on a computer, Ask these questions:
1.) What computer software will you use to play this material (still no mention of file)?
2.) Is the computer equipped for DD 5.1 SS decoding and playback?
These answers will direct you even more. If you get proper answers of, say CyberLink PowerDVD of #1 and "yes," for #2, go on to the next set of questions:
1.) Can I deliver this material on a DVD-Video (the format and medium of commercial DVD’s)? Note: this will be a DVD that will play on a computer with proper software, or a Home Theater system, and will contain both Video and Audio. The client can turn the TV, or .computer’s monitor off, if they do not wish to view any Video signal, or you can create Black Video so there is nothing to see. With this delivery format, there has to be a Video stream, but it can be black.
2.) Can I deliver this material on a Data DVD? Point out that a Data DVD will only play on a computer and not on a set-top player through the TV and a Home Theater’s Audio system. Some people do not know the difference, and you cannot trust your client to, unless you specifically ask them.
If the answer to #1 is "no," and the answer to #2 is "yes," go on to the next question:
If I deliver this material to you on a Datat DVD, will an MPEG-2 file with DD 5.1 SS be acceptable? If so, I'd still do the Burn to folder to get the .VOB and rename it to .MPEG. Test this file on your system. A .VOB can contain a lot of things, but yours was created with no Menu or other material, so it should be just the pure .MPEG-2 file. Still, test, before you deliver.
Now, on the off chance that your client needs something like an SACD, or DVD-Audio, you will be shopping for software. Before you do, I’d post to the Adobe Encore forum and ask Neil Wilkes for his suggestions for the creation of DVD-Audio discs. Believe every word he types and follow his recommendations to the letter.
Good luck, and if you need more detail, or other suggestions after you query your client, please ask,
Hunt
[Edit] I see that you also mention "HD." This will mean either a BD (Blu-ray Disc) for delivery, or a BD folder, Burned to a DVD-Video. If you will have HD Video material, your best going the full BD route. If you only will have Audio, the "HD" will not come into play. What exactly do you mean with the term "HD?" This can make a world of difference.
[Edit 2] Sorry about the formatting in the second paragraph. I cannot seem to get it to display properly, though it looks perfect in the editing screen.

Should JPEG 2000 be an Exportable File Format Option?

I have been keeping up with the Library of Congress' efforts in the "Sustainability of Digital Formats Planning for Library of Congress Collections." In essence, TIFF is their first choice, with JPEG 2000 a close second. Here is the link to a short summary of their recommendations.
I like JPEG 2000, but like everybody else I never use it. When I burn a DVD to share with someone, I make a "hi-res" folder of TIFFs, and a "lo-res" folder of JPEGs. It isn't difficult to add JPEG 2000 as an exportable file format, as it is an ISO standard if I understand the spec correctly. In any event, if JPEG 2000 is a close second on the list at the Library of Congress, then we shouldn't take this lightly as they are the largest library in the world, in addition to being the single most important entity for handing our digital imaging rights which should be in the interest of all Aperture users.
Given this information, would you support adding JPEG 2000 as an exportable file format in Aperture 3?

Click on the word Aperture in the menubar, and choose Provide Aperture Feedback.
Ernie
Btw, quoting from Wiki, which leaves me uncertain as to why I would ever use, even from Photoshop:
"While there is a modest increase in compression performance of JPEG 2000 compared to JPEG, the main advantage offered by JPEG 2000 is the significant flexibility of the codestream. The codestream obtained after compression of an image with JPEG 2000 is scalable in nature, meaning that it can be decoded in a number of ways; for instance, by truncating the codestream at any point, one may obtain a representation of the image at a lower resolution, or signal-to-noise ratio – see scalable compression. By ordering the codestream in various ways, applications can achieve significant performance increases. However, as a consequence of this flexibility, JPEG 2000 requires encoders/decoders that are complex and computationally demanding. Another difference, in comparison with JPEG, is in terms of visual artifacts: JPEG 2000 produces ringing artifacts, manifested as blur and rings near edges in the image, while JPEG produces ringing artifacts and 'blocking' artifacts, due to its 8×8 blocks."
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JPEG 2000 for DCP?

Been trying to create a DCP package. I noticed AME seemed to have a JPEG 2000 and there is a Digital cinima option, is this creating files with a 16 bit depth?
Ben
PS I did install http://www.fnordware.com/j2k/
plugin so maybe AME does not include JPEG 2000 as default. Is this the case.

You have those options because you installed the fnordware plug-ins. If you have questions about them, you should ask fnordware. There's contact information here:
http://www.fnordware.com/about/
I'll direct them to this thread, too.

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