Red Rocket & Premier Pro CC

So I have a Sonnet Thunderbolt 2 expansion box.  It has a Red Rocket only in it.  I am current on software, firmware and OS.  When the card is used in Redcine-X Pro it works great.  When used in Premier Pro CC it hangs and won't play much at all.  As soon as I unenable it from PP's R3d interface in the  Sources Settings the R3D's play at half res jsut fine.  With the RR enabled it won't play clips at all.  I am working on  15 inch mac pro 2.6ghz incore i7 with 16gb of ram, with a Thunderbolt display.  Thoughts?
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    First post here and glad to be on PP. I'm a FCP Ship Jumper....
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    Ok,
    using Premier Pro on my desktop and love it. However, it is not utilizing my Rocket Card.
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    3. Download latest (9/12 update for PP) update for Premier Pro to 5.5.1 at:  http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=98&platform=Macintosh
    4. Download RED EPIC Importer at: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/redepic_importer/
    5. Downloaded LATEST ROCKET DRIVER: 1.4.16
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    1. SHOULD i also download RED ADOBE CS4 Installer from RED Support page ?
    2. Is the LATEST ROCKET firmware 1.4.16 actually supported---on most the threads i hear folks talking about Rocket firmware 1.4.7
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    am editing with red files in premier pro and when I export and then upload to youtube it is not showing as an hd video.  can anyone help?

    Then it's probably YouTube - have you checked here to see that you're watching the hi res version? It could be that YouTube is choosing an easier version to display based on your internet connection.
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  • Premier Pro CC and Media Encoder crashing on long file export.

    Please forgive the length of this inquiry. But it is complicated and has a lot of variables.
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    Th only way is to "flood" Adobe with "bug reports" and "wish forms"
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    Le 16/05/2014 16:51, alainmaiki a écrit :
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          Premier Pro CC and Media Encoder crashing on long file export.
    created by alainmaiki <https://forums.adobe.com/people/alainmaiki> in
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