Reducing JavaFX's memory footprint via a CustomNode alternative

Its great to see the beginnings of a new and useful primary node in the JFX world, a missing piece has arrived. The existing CustomNode is good for many tasks however, for graphics involving many details it can be a real memory hog. It is also not suited for some types of immediate rendering tasks. Information about this new node is available at the following JavaWorld blog.
http://www.javaworld.com/community/?q=node/2754
Its easy to see the potential usage of the new node, you can create and setup only one instance, and then rubberstamp elaborate and complex graphics without needing to instantiate and persist hundreds and possibly more heavyweight CustomNode instances. To make the new node paint differently just send it a new set of paint instructions, how could it get any easier! All the while the new node can be rotated, scaled and translated like any other JFX node.
What are your thoughts about this innovative new node?
Thom

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Hi!
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Hi Aleksander,
Glad to hear of your good report on Java 7's HotSpot VM regarding performance -- it has various enhancements, of which the new garbage collector is just one. In terms of interpreting memory footprints, take a look at:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/gc-tuning-6-140523.html#generation_sizing
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Hello All,
We are doing a test install of SAP Solution Manager 7.01 on Sybase ASE 15.7.
Since this is just a test setup, we started off with a lower-than-recommended hardware configuration (4 GB RAM only) due to time constraints and since we were 'assured' that we could do basic testing with this setup.
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As for the SolMan performance issues ... I'd recommend reposting your issue in the SAP Applications on ASE discussion group where you're likely to get the attention of more folks with SAP application (on ASE) experience. (While someone may jump in here with SolMan suggestions, SolMan is a SAP application and this group isn't really geared towards SAP applications.)

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Hi,
The memory consume is quite worrying.
However change the code into VB / Delphi will lose its availability as Java's write once run anywhere. :-)
You won't be able to use this tool on Solaris, Linux, and Mac without changing the code and compiler. Thus would be less acceptable.
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I ever get memory reach up to 500MB after doing a canceled Export Wizard for USER.
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We use Oracle 9iAS R2 on a Windows 2K server with dual Xenons and 2 GB physical RAM as an integration server. There the various developers all have differenct OC4Js set up for testing. Now an Oracle rep once told us that many OC4Js within an iAS instance are no big deal because an OC4J had a memory footprint of about 3 MB RAM.
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Firefox memory footprint

greetings,
i write regarding the memory footprint of the mozilla-firefox package for arch. i downloaded the gtk2/xft binary of firefox 0.9 from the mozilla website and used it in anticipation of the arch package being released. previously on my arch box i had used the mozilla-fire* package rather than the mozilla.org binary. but now i have noticed a discrepency in memory footprint between the two. 'ps v' gives for the arch package and mozilla.org package, respectively:
<pre>
1798 pts/1 S 0:04 0 66 37829 23280 18.2 /opt/mozilla-firefox/l
1979 pts/1 S 0:06 9 9190 27345 19564 15.3 /tmp/firefox/firefox
</pre>
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p.s. i've been using arch for some time now. i would just like to take this opportunity to thank those who created and maintain arch linux. it is an enjoyable distribution

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13600 pts/32 S 0:00 0 47 3604 2140 0.2 /opt/gnome/libexec/gconfd-2 11
13651 pts/32 S+ 0:00 0 577 1666 1096 0.1 /bin/sh /opt/mozilla-firefox/bin/firefox
13669 pts/32 S+ 0:00 0 577 1702 1108 0.1 /bin/sh /opt/mozilla-firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/run-mozilla.sh /opt
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13675 pts/32 S+ 0:00 0 66 49069 27464 3.5 /opt/mozilla-firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/firefox-bin
13676 pts/32 S+ 0:00 0 66 49069 27464 3.5 /opt/mozilla-firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/firefox-bin
13678 pts/33 Ss 0:00 0 577 2854 2456 0.3 -bash
13691 pts/32 S+ 0:00 0 66 49069 27464 3.5 /opt/mozilla-firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/firefox-bin
13692 pts/32 S+ 0:00 0 66 49069 27464 3.5 /opt/mozilla-firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/firefox-bin
13693 pts/32 S+ 0:00 0 66 49069 27464 3.5 /opt/mozilla-firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/firefox-bin
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LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/mozilla-plugins/Blender3DPlugin.so [/opt/mozilla-plugins/Blender3DPlugin.so: undefined symbol: _ZTV16nsQueryInterface]
libxpt: bad magic header in input file; found 'XPCOM
TypeLib
–@', expected 'XPCOMnTypeLibrn32'
*** loading the extensions datasource
[damir@Asteraceae /]$
the blender plugin is broken --- funny enough: i hear the first time that such thing exist, so it would be nice that someone else confirm this ;-)

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