Ref. Operation Set for Trigger Point

Friends,
I m doing Trigger points in CO11N. Production Order quantity is 10. While confirmation yield qty. 7 & rework qty is 3. After saving trigger point function pop up but after pop up of ref. operation set, i m selecting Group and Task list type, system displayed *Ref. operation set ********** is not valid according to selection conditions.*
In CA02 change routing I hav done all settings of trigger points and created Ref. op. set by CA11.
Pl. guide.......

Dear,
Kindly change order type dependent parameters(TCode OPL8), and check routing selection (3 Routing/ref. op. set optional (automatic selection))
and task list type S Reference Operation Set.
check and revert back.
Thanks
Muhammad Ashfaq
Edited by: Muhammad Ashfaq on Sep 10, 2011 1:46 PM

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