Referenced masters and automounted filesystems in Aperture 2.1

Folks,
I've recently set up an automount for an nfs share from my raid for use in storing masters for my aperture library. Unfortunately, Aperture doesn't seem to be fully prepared for automounted filesystems. Here's the behavior I've noticed:
Scenario #1:
Create an automount that mounts the nfs share under the /Volumes directory using the Directory Utility in Leopard.
When I do this, and 'relocate masters' for a project, things seem to work acceptably, as I can navigate to the share in the referenced files manager. However, if I exit out of Aperture and immediately restart, Aperture believes the volume is offline. Only after starting the referenced files manager does aperture become aware that the filesystem is indeed mounted and available. This is less than ideal. It defeats the purpose of configuring an automount if I still have to do something special to make the mount available or convince Aperture that the mount is already there.
Scenario #2:
Create the automount using the 'net' option. This mounts the filesystem under /Network/Servers/<hostname>/<share>. This is completely unusable from Aperture as far as I've been able to tell as the referenced file manager can't even navigate to /Network. My initial preference would be to use the net option in the automount configuration, but at this point, I'll take anyone's suggestions as to how to integrate automounted filesystems into Aperture...
So, my question is, does anyone have a suggestion on how to get Aperture 2.1 to play nicely with automounted filesystems under Leopard?

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