Referenced masters and IPTC
Hello, I am evaluating Aperture and playing with the different possibilities.
I'd like to know if, when I am adding IPTC informations, it's possible to update the original master referenced image. I think, in fact, that Aperture only writes in its library and add IPTC only after an export.
Is it instead possible to "sync" the original master image, so that if I open it from - for example - the finder - I see the added IPTC informations?
Thanks,
Antonio
i can see why you would want something like that, it's sometimes easier to search for your images with spotlight and keywords than to wait for aperture to open and use its slower search function on the whole library. aperture, however has a philosphy of not changing original master files, probably for some very good reasons. although it would be perfectly possible and easy (i think iview media pro did it that way on the mac) to store the ipct data in the file's resource fork, and thus not changing the original, apple chose not to mess with the file at all. after all, they already write all the info to the database and a series of plist files saved in the library. a third place to write all this, and a place where the user could easily mess up the resource fork would simply complicate things.
in aperture 2 there is a way to export your masters with the info embedded into the file, and not an xmp sidecar. you could export your masters with iptc data, delete them from the library and reimport them referenced, but there would be no way to sync the info without repeating this step and you would lose all your image edits along the way.
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After reading many recommendations on this site, I have set up my main library on my internal HD with referenced masters on an external HD.
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