Referenced vs managed VS. file locations

I've always used referenced files; now keeping the AP library on the local disk and the referenced image files on an external FW800, 7200rpm 16MB cache drive. (I think there was a time when even the library was on an external drive - using a previous version of AP.)
I recently read in one post that you should really keep the library on the local drive, not an external (something about it being safer to do so). And if referencing files, you can put them on an external HD.
If this is true and one were to use a managed file system, does that mean the library (which includes the images) should always reside on a local drive? The user guide indicates how to move the library to another drive, but must it always be "in" the mac and not on an external drive?

pvonk wrote:
Yes to OWC - I've purchased a four of these in the past year (FW, not eSATA) and like them so far.
With inspiration from another post, I've decide to abandon the referenced library in favor of the following strategy:
Copy files from the photo card (using ImageIngesterPro) to an external FW800/7200 OWC drive. Then import into AP managed library on the internal 7200 drive, keeping the OWC as a backup of the originals. The OWC is backed up using Chronosync to another OWC FW800 external. The vaults are also made to that OWC. So I have originals on one drive, library on local drive, and vault on another external. In addition, I use Time machine on yet another home drive and a second at work. Plus I use CrashPlan for another backup of the internal. (I'm a safety kind of guy.)
You might say I'm over protective on the backups, but, ignoring these, my workflow is
card -> external --(import)-->local managed library.
I will eventually try using the local drive next for a project.

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