Referencing iPhoto pictures and notify changes in Aperture

Hi
I'm trying to figure out how to setup iPhoto and Aperture to work together. At the moment all my photos are located in the iPhoto library.
I've imported some of my iPhoto images as references in my Aperture library which is pretty cool because I can make changes to my images without having to copy them. But the thing I can't seem to figure out is how to notify iPhoto that I made changes to an image and the 'optimized' image needs to be updated in iPhoto's library.
Is the iPhoto -> Aperture link only one way traffic?
Please do mind that I'm aware that there is a way to reference Aperture photos in iPhoto but I'd rather like to have all my images in iPhoto and use Aperture as the 'editing' program.

Please do mind that I'm aware that there is a way to reference Aperture photos in iPhoto but I'd rather like to have all my images in iPhoto and use Aperture as the 'editing' program.
You can't. There is no way to round-trip a photo from iPhoto to Aperture and back again.
Aperture is not an editing programme. It is - rather like iPhoto - a database driven Digitial Asset Manager. While you can set Aperture as an external editor in iPhoto, it doesn't work, because it's a DAM rather than an editor. (You can set the Chess Game as an external editor in iPhoto )
iPhoto has no awareness of or ability to read the Aperture Library. Aperture's ability to read the iPhoto Library is really limited to allowing you to migrate to Aperture from iPhoto.
Regards
TD

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