Referencing Subcontract Challan in MIGO (101)

Hello All
I have one Problem in Subcontract Challan,
When we make GR for subcontract Challan, We suppose take Ref in Excise invoice tab, Ref as Subcontract Challan.
But when we try make to reconcile the challan its giving as this challan allocated to GR
Not able to reconcile. we can delete the assignment while creating challan reconcilation but i dont want that.
and Even not able to Complete the challan giving error like Challan has to be reconciled first
PLease help me in this regards,
Thanks in advance
Abhinay Waikar
Edited by: Abhinay Waikar on Sep 9, 2009 9:44 AM

Thanks you very much for quick reply
But if enter the GR document number(101) and the year
Giving me error like document does not exist.
But GR doc exist.
Please reply
Abhinay
Edited by: Abhinay Waikar on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM
Edited by: Abhinay Waikar on Sep 9, 2009 11:33 AM

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