Reformat internal w/o install disc?

Is there any possible way to reformat/erase an internal hard drive on a Macbook without the install CD?

Yes, you could do that if you had another Mac nearby and a FireWire cable. You can startup the MacBook in FireWire Target Disk Mode and connect it with a FireWire cable to another Mac. Then you can use the Disk Utility on the other Mac to erase the MacBook's hard drive. Of course, then you'd have a blank MacBook... Maybe if you told us exactly what it is you're trying to do, we could figure something else out.
-Doug

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Need to reformat. Missing Tiger Install disc.

I've been having multiple problems with my G5 for the past few days.
Here's a list in chronological order:
I came back from a vacation and my Mac took an incredibly long time to load up. Any program I tried to open either failed or took almost 10 minutes to open. Everything in the top right corner menu (time, airport) has been missing since then too.
Ran a hardware test, said everything was fine. Ran the usual verify/repair disk permissions. Said the HD couldn't be repaired.
I attempted to run a Mac OS software update, but it says it cannot be installed.
On top of that, when I plug my iPod into the mac, the computer recognizes it, however iTunes does not. I restored my iPod but that didn't work and now I have no music on it. (it is not in disc mode either.)
I've backed up everything as far as I know (Users, apps, etc.) and I want to reformat the drive. I cannot find my Tiger OSX Install Disc and only have my Panther OSX. Is there a way to reformat without having to reinstall the OS, and if not, will installing Panther cause problems?
I know that was lengthy, but I'd appreciate ANY help anyone can offer on any of those problems.
Thanks.
PowerMac Dual G5 8GB RAM 500GB + 150GB USB HD Mac OS X (10.4.8)

To be more specific from my first post:
When I run "verify/repair disk permissions" Disk Utility freezes. When I use "Verify/Repair Disk" I get this message:
Verify:
"Invalid node structure
The volume Macintosh HD needs to be repaired.
Volume check failed.
Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit (-9972)
0 HFS volume verified
1 volume failed verification"
Repair:
"Keys out of order
Rebuilding Catalog B-tree
The volume could not be repaired
Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit (-9972)"
When running the Extended Hardware Test, I recieve an error message for Memory. this error message appears in the same window:
"Error code Error Code 2/MEM/102/4: DIMM6/J43
When I try to install the OS software update, I get this error message:
"The Update "Mac OS X Update (Power PC" Can't be installed.
Sorry, an unexpected error occurred.
The Installer package has been moved to the Trash. To try again, open the package from the Finder."
I have 152.55 GB capacity with 11.43 GB available space

MBP 17" running OS10.9.2....... how do I reformat it and then instal OS 10.6.8 on it.... have put in SL disc and pressed C when starting but I cannot install the OS

I have MBP 17" running OS 10.9.2....... I need to have OS 10.6.8 so I can contiue running Quicken 2006. I have this on my Mac Pro but am switching to iMac and hence will dedicate laptop to finances. I pressed option when starting and got disk utilities and erased the HD..... I put in the Snow Leopard disc and pressed C when starting but then when I try and install it shows icon of my HD and says I cannot start up from that disk....... I get the same thing when I insert the #1 instal disc that came with the computer. How do I instal OS 10.6.8 (if I go recovery mode it will insatll 10.9.2 which I don't want on this laptop.
Thanks for any help.

The grey disk says OS 10.6...... i tried it as well as the SL disk with the C pressed....... what happens is that it directs you to agree etc and then asks where you want it installed..... the icon of the computer HD however has the yellow exclammation sign saying I cannot start from that disk.
My super drive is working.......
Since I need to get to Quicken for taxes etc what I have done presently is formatted a LaCie rugged drive, partitioned it and when I attach that drive to the MBP and start up again I was able to install on the external drive....I am presently downloading the combo upgrade that will take me to 10.6.8
I still don't understand why it wont instal on the MBP I i know you cannot go earlier than what the machine shipped with but since this is 10.6 it should.I have a Mac Pro with one internal drive running 10.9.2 and the other 10.6.8 and I'd select the earlier system to start when I wanted to do my finances. I have upgraded to an iMac and hence cannot use that for acessing the earlier system
Interestingly, I partitioned another LaCie drive and was able when running 10.6.8 on Mac Pro to install on the external drive...... however when selecting that ext. HD for starting it never did restart with it , always restartd using the 10.9.2 system that was actiually on the other disc.

Have reformatted my Imac using original discs (installed leopard (10.5)) tried to do the software update but it cant download the itunes update and when it gets to the configure update screen after restart for main update, it just gets stuck. HELP!

have reformatted my Imac using original discs (installed leopard (10.5)) tried to do the software update but it cant download the itunes update and when it gets to the configure update screen after restart for main update, it just gets stuck. HELP!
The configure bar gets about an 1/8 full and then just does nothing. I think its lists the update as combo update? cant remember with out checking.
I have tried to do the disk verify and repair but this has made no difference.
Please let me know what i need to do, I have reformatted the mac just to start over as was clogged with a lot of useless data, I had installed lion (10.7) from the app store previously and now cant seem to find a way to re install lion. I hope I dont need to pay for it again?

If you erased your hard drive, you'll need to reinstll OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard to access the App store. You won't have to pay for OS X 10.7 Lion again. Did you try booting to the recovery partition by holding the command and r keys down? If that's still there, you can reinstall OS X 10.7 from there.
If you're looking to install the current iTunes, you need OS X 10.6.8 at a minimum.
If you're still trying to update OS X 10.5 Leopard, you can download the combo update from here. Download, use Disk Utility to repair permissions, apply the update, then repair permissions again. That will take you to OS X 10.5.8.

Brand new internal HDD fails again and again after clean Mavericks install - disc utility from Recovery HD can't repair

My old internal (self installed) Seagate HDD broke down, and couldn't be fixed with disc utility (from install disc). I bought and installed a new hybrid Seagate HDD, and did several clean installs of Mavericks, but the problem keep occurring - on the new HDD, just as it did on the old one.
I can't run Hardware test. Happened both on 10.9.0 and 10.9.1.
Will try to repair with DiscWarrior later.

If both the HDD and the hybrid disk are failing, your problem may be the SATA cable in the main HD bay. You might want to search eBay for Apple part # 922-9751, or if you want a tested cable, pay the higher price from ifixit -> http://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/MacBook-Pro-15-Inch-Unibody-Early-2011-Late-2011 -Hard-Drive-Cable/IF161-086.
Worth a shot...
Clinton

Missing install disc (Snow Leopard) for OS X upgrade

Hi, I am going to upgrade to Mountain Lion OS X from Snow Leopard 10.6.8 when it releases, however, I DO NOT have the original SL Install Disc.
I read that there are certain steps that one needs to take to prepare a computer for this upgrade so that it goes smoothly. One of the things on the list is to do a hard drive verification for errors. I can do this in Utilities but it prompts me for the Install Disc in order to repair. It shows two minor errors (Invalid Volume File Count, Invalid Volume Directory Count) that need to be addressed and repaired but I can not continue without the Install Disc. Any suggestions?
Also, a friend has the same SL version install disc. Can I use his or do I need the ORIGINAL one that was originally installed with my iMac? I don't know if the MODEL INDENTIFIER, BOOT ROM VERSION and SMC VERSION will be affected since they are two different machines. Please help!
I can always contact Apple but was trying to avoid any additional costs of replacing the disc since I plan on purchasing a disc for the upgrade to Mountain Lion.
FYI, my iMac runs flawlessly right now and is loaded with software. I am so afraid I will have issues with software if I use another disc and I don't want to go through reinstalling all my software programs. It is a lot. I am hoping it will be okay but I wanted to ask anyone on here first.
Can anyone advise?

Firstly, order the Snow Leopard DVD from Apple's Online Store even if you don't currently need it. Download and save the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 updater in your Downloads folder.
Secondly, you can use your friend's Snow Leopard DVD to do disk and permissions repairs, but not to install OS X on your machine.
Thirdly, follow these instructions:
How to Install Mountain Lion Successfully - You must have Snow Leopard 10.6.7 or 10.6.8 Installed
A. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions:
Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. Then select Disk Utility from the Utilities. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.3.) if DW cannot fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall Snow Leopard.
B. Make a Bootable Backup Using Restore Option of Disk Utility:
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the backup volume. Source means the internal startup volume.
C. Important: Please read before installing:
If you have a FireWire hard drive connected, disconnect it before installing the update unless you will boot from this drive and install the update on it. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.
You may experience unexpected results if you have installed third-party system software modifications, or if you have modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
The installation process should not be interrupted. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Downloads to update. While the installation is in progress do not use the computer.
D. To upgrade to Mountain Lion:
Purchase the Mountain Lion Installer from the Mac App Store. The download will start quickly. Mountain Lion is around 4 GBs so a fast internet connection is essential. Download time could run upwards of 4 hours depending upon network conditions and server demands at the time.
The installer will start automatically after the download is complete. You should save a copy in your Downloads folder because the installer will delete itself automatically after the installation is complete.
Follow instructions for installation.

Imac PPC G4 sluggish, don't have install discs, any ideas ?

I have an old PPC G4 17" w/ 1 GB DDR SDRAM running 10.5.8 , I do not have any original discs. It has gotten more and more sluggish in spite of the RAM upgrade a few years back.
HArd drive is 75% empty and I ran Onyx routines, any suggestions what I can do to improve performance since I cannot do a fresh reinstall ?
Message was edited by: Chris Ifatoye Theberge

You may have to get a retail full install DVD for Leopard 10.5 so you may
access the computer from there, and see about running Disk Utility from
the Installer, to Verify the hard disk drive, and also 'repair disk.'
There is supposed to be a way to run fsck in a single-user mode of startup
from the command-line; to help do certain tasks that may otherwise not be
possible if the discs are missing, or if other processes do not work.
It is best if you can perform maintenance with the booted OS X install disc.
• Resolve startup issues and perform disk maintenance with Disk Utility & fsck:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1417
{A retail Leopard 10.5 install DVD would not include iLife apps, or other
apps which may have accompanied the computer when new, or added
by some other owner with discs no longer with the computer now. An
iLife '06 would probably be most compatible with the iMac G4 & 10.5.8.}
Have you tried booting the computer via SafeBoot mode (shift key held
on startup until you get a starting OS X dialog box or login screen) then
use the system's Disk Utility and have it 'repair disk permissions' on the
Macintosh HD? When done, you restart the computer normally.
• Mac OS X: Starting up in Safe Mode:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1455
Depending on what iMac G4 model and build you have, it may be able
to support up to 2048MB of RAM if both slots can be upgraded. If your
iMac G4 has at least a 1GHz processor, or is USB2.0, it probably can
use more than the original supported amount of installed RAM capacity.
You may be able to add one 1024MB chip in the lower RAM slot, if
the computer is an iMac G4 1GHz or faster CPU for 1.5GB RAM.
Leopard demands more resources in some computer builds that did well
under Tiger 10.4.11, & in some instances 10.5 may be more problematic.
If you have an external FireWire hard disk drive enclosure with boot-capable
hard drive within it, a self-powered model with its own power adapter, it may
be possible to get and use a Clone utility to make a bootable clone/copy of
your computer's complete hard disk drive, to an external FW HDD, and then
test it, to see if it can run the computer the same as the original in-Mac HD.
With a successful clone of the computer's hard drive to an external FW HDD,
you could consider using the Clone's own Disk Utility (run from clone in the
FW hard disk drive) to secure erase or zero-overwrite and partition map, and
reformat the computer's internal hard disk drive; test & repair it, etc. Then use
the same clone utility (such as Carbon Copy Cloner, etc) to move a clone copy
back into the computer's hard disk drive. Then 'repair disk permissions' on boot
via the clone's Disk Utility, to be sure they are corrected and check out OK.
With an older computer, it may be the internal hard disk drive also may be getting
worn and could be starting to fail. There are third-party disk utilities such as
Drive Genius, and DiskWarrior; these should be of the correct version to help the
computer model and OS version, and not too old or too new for your configuration.
There's just too much to say; especially when your best first effort would be to
have the Leopard 10.5 retail full install DVD to check, test, repair, or replace the
computer's system. And an external FireWire type hard disk drive, which can
support booting OS X and work with clones.
So, there's a lot one could do; if you have access to the tools, even more.
Good luck & happy computing!

How can I nuke HD without install disc?

I have an iMac (2006) that I will be recycling and I need to wipe the hard drive. Problem is I have no install discs anymore. Is there some way to do this?
Thanks

Yes, it protects you from wiping your startup drive accidentally. In any event if you sell the computer you need to provide the new owner with the installation discs that came with the computer. Among other things they contain the Apple Hardware Test for that model. Once you have the discs you can prep the computer for sale:
Follow these instructions step by step to prepare a Mac for sale:
Step One - Back up your data:
       A. If you have any Virtual PCs shut them down. They cannot be in their "fast saved" state. They must be shut down from inside Windows.
       B. Clone to an external drive using using Carbon Copy Cloner.
          1. Open Carbon Copy Cloner.
          2. Select the Source volume from the Select a source drop down menu on the left side.
          3. Select the Destination volume from the Select a destination drop down menu on the right
              side.
          4. Click on the Clone button. If you are prompted about creating a clone of the Recovery HD be
              sure to opt for that.
               Destination means a freshly erased external backup drive. Source means the internal
               startup drive.
Step Two - Prepare the machine for the new buyer:
          1. De-authorize the computer in iTunes! De-authorize both iTunes and Audible accounts.
          2, Remove any Open Firmware passwords or Firmware passwords.
          3. Turn the brightness full up and volume nearly so.
          4. Turn off File Vault, if enabled.
          5. Disable iCloud, if enabled: See.What to do with iCloud before selling your computer
Step Three - Install a fresh OS:
     A. Snow Leopard and earlier versions of OS X
          1. Insert the original OS X install CD/DVD that came with your computer.
          2. Restart the computer while holding down the C key to boot from the CD/DVD.
          3. Select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu; repartition and reformat the internal hard drive.
              Optionally, click on the Security button and set the Zero Data option to one-pass.
          4. Install OS X.
          5. Upon completion DO NOT restart the computer.
          6. Shutdown the computer.
     B. Lion and Mountain Lion (if pre-installed on the computer at purchase*)
         Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet if possible because
                   it is three times faster than wireless.
          1. Restart the computer while holding down the COMMAND and R keys until the Mac OS X
              Utilities window appears.
          2. Select Disk Utility from the Mac OS X Utilities window and click on the Continue button.
          3. After DU loads select your startup volume (usually Macintosh HD) from the left side list. Click
              on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
          4. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Optionally, click on the Security button
              and set the Zero Data option to one-pass.
          5. Click on the Erase button and wait until the process has completed.
          6. Quit DU and return to the Mac OS X Utilities window.
          7. Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion and click on the Install button.
          8. Upon completion shutdown the computer.
*If your computer came with Lion or Mountain Lion pre-installed then you are entitled to transfer your license once. If you purchased Lion or Mountain Lion from the App Store then you cannot transfer your license to another party. In the case of the latter you should install the original version of OS X that came with your computer. You need to repartition the hard drive as well as reformat it; this will assure that the Recovery HD partition is removed. See Step Three above. You may verify these requirements by reviewing your OS X Software License.

Not even starting up from install disc !!!!

After having to reformat my internal hd, I recovered from a time machine backup. But now at startup it won't go beyond the grey page with apple logo and spinning gear. Neither with internal hd nor with install disc A first timer after 17 years with macs!!

Zap the PRAM and try to start with the install disk. Details in http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379

Creating a bootable Lion install disc/disk and using it

Hi all,
Below is a copy of a method ds store posted for creating a bootable Lion install disc. Some questions:
1. Is this a polished final version of the process, or are there other steps which could/should be added?
2. Are there any disadvantages to going this route instead of installing directly onto a Mac?
3. After creating a Lion install disc/disk via this method and using this saved dmg to install Lion on a Mac, will it set up the Mac exactly the same way it would by downloading/installing directly from the Apple Store (sounds like a "duh" question, but nothing would surprise me with Lion)?
4. Exact size of this dmg (in case I want to use a flash drive instead)?
I have been avoiding Lion, hoping it would shape up. I'm still not satisfied and will not run it on my main machines. (Of course ymmv; I'm not looking to be talked into or out of using Lion.) However, I am ******* (hmmm, I guess l-u-s-t-i-n-g is a bad word!) over a new Mac Mini, which will have Lion installed, with no chance of running SL on it due to the new hardware revision. Thus, I'm either going to have to make peace with Lion or forget about a new Mini. I guess I'll have to give Lion a try, but I still don't want to actually run it on any of my machines; thus, I want to run it from an external drive, playing with it as I have time/desire, leading to more questions.
5. Using the install disc/disk created above, will it set up Lion on a DVD, flash drive, or external HD exactly as it would on a Mac (Recovery Disk, etc.)?
6. How much space is needed on a destination disc/disk to install Lion?
7. Is it possible to boot from a different volume, mount this dmg, and install Lion from it?
8. Any advantages/disadvantages doing it this way (#7) as opposed to booting from the Lion install disc/disk created above?
9. Another method I'm thinking of using is to (after cloning my SL installation) actually install Lion on my MBP over my current SL installation (shudders violently ), clone it to an external HD, then erase/zero the MBP's HD and clone my SL install back to my MBP. Has anyone done this? Again, I'm concerned that Lion will do something goofy and leave some kind of footprint behind, like maybe messing with firmware; cloning my SL installation back to my internal HD would not reverse a firmware change.
10. Any constructive suggestions on anything related to any of these steps is welcome!
Yes, I've searched and read a number of responses, but I'm hoping much of the "discovery" phase is over, and there are some "solid"/refined answers by now. My bottom line is to be able to play with Lion without having to depend on it.
Thanks!
Backup Lion Bootable 10.7 Disk
Purchase and download Lion from the Mac App Store on any Lion compatible Mac running Snow Leopard.
Right click on “Mac OS X     Lion”     installer and choose the option to     “Show Package Contents.”
Inside the Contents folder     that     appears you will find a SharedSupport     folder and inside the     SharedSupport folder     you will find the “InstallESD.dmg.” This is         the Lion boot disc image we have all been waiting for.
Copy “InstallESD.dmg” to         another folder like the Desktop.
Launch Disk Utility and click     the     burn button.
Select the copied “InstallESD.dmg” as the image to     burn,     insert a standard sized 4.7 GB DVD,     and wait for your new Lion Boot     Disc to come     out toasty hot.
With this disc you can boot any Lion compatible Mac, andinstall10.7 just like you installed previous version of Mac OS X. Youcan even use Disk Utility's Restore function to image your Lion bootdisc image onto a external drive suitable for performing a cleaninstall on a optical-drive-less MacBook Air, or Mac mini server.

tjk wrote:
5. Using the install disc/disk created above, will it set up Lion on a DVD, flash drive, or external HD exactly as it would on a Mac (Recovery Disk, etc.)?
DVD: no, flash drive: if it's large enough, external hard drive: yes
6. How much space is needed on a destination disc/disk to install Lion?
Whatever Apple minimum requirements are.
7. Is it possible to boot from a different volume, mount this dmg, and install Lion from it?
possibly, never tried it, it is a dmg so it's a volume all to itself, except it can't install to the same media it's on and can only install to something formatted with GUID and a OS X extended format, like a flash drive or hard drive large enough.
DVD's can't be formatted with a GUID EFI partiton
8. Any advantages/disadvantages doing it this way (#7) as opposed to booting from the Lion install disc/disk created above?
Speed limitation of the media and bus your using, USB 1 is a slower than a hard drive with 7,200 RPM on a Firewire 800 port
9. Another method I'm thinking of using is to (after cloning my SL installation) actually install Lion on my MBP over my current SL installation (shudders violently ), clone it to an external HD, then erase/zero the MBP's HD and clone my SL install back to my MBP.
The problems come from installing Lion over a existing Snow Leopard setup that isn't quite pristine enough for Lions quirkyness, has tweaks or other software installed that breaks 10.7, requiring you to fix it.
You can try it, you've got the 10.6 clone to option boot off of and restore from.
Cloning back and forth is a performance enhancer, not a problem solver.
Ideally it's best to clone 10.6, disconnect, zero and install 10.6, same user name, then up to 10.6.8, then to 10.7, then install programs from fresh sources/copies and then files returned last from backup off the clone (no migration assistant or it brings trouble back)
This will ensure the best possible performance possible with the least trouble as everything is wiped and installed fresh. Only problem being your files it there is something wrong with them, which is easy to remedy to the cause as it's the only thing not pristine.
Once you've got a pristine system, then clone that twice, once for a immediate update other for falling back a week, two weeks or even a month back.
Has anyone done this? Again, I'm concerned that Lion will do something goofy and leave some kind of footprint behind, like maybe messing with firmware; cloning my SL installation back to my internal HD would not reverse a firmware change.
Firmware is hardware specific not OS specific, of course it's possible a old version of a OS won't work with newer firmware, like 10.5 for instance perhaps because Apple has dropped all work on PPC code.
10.6 and 10.7 are just fine with most all present firmware, however there will be a time where a new firmware update could disallow 10.6, likely when iOS X 10.8 Bobcat arrives.
10. Any constructive suggestions on anything related to any of these steps is welcome!
Yes, I've searched and read a number of responses, but I'm hoping much of the "discovery" phase is over, and there are some "solid"/refined answers by now. My bottom line is to be able to play with Lion without having to depend on it.
Cloning only clones the Lion OS X Partition, not the Lion Recovery Partition.
A comptuer that is Lion capable will boot off a media with no Lion Recovery Partition.
You need to create a Lion Disk Assistant USB which copies your Lion Recovery Partition.
It's in my post.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16276201#16276201

Can't boot from install disc after new RAM & SSD install

I decided to breathe some new life in to my 2007 2.2GHz MacBook by:
-upgrading the RAM to 4gb w/Centon memoryPOWER 2GB DDR2-667 PC2-5300 CL5 SO-DIMM Laptop Memory Module
-replace the HDD with a SSD (Samsung 840 Pro-Series MZ-7PD128BW 128GB SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Hard Drive).
-Also going from Leopard to Snow Leopard after the hardware upgrade, then possibly Lion/Mountain Lion...
What I've already done:
1. Backed up my hard drive using time machine, did not clone
2. Using the install disc/Disc Utility, I erased my old hard drive completely (Hope that wasn't a huge mistake!)
3. Replaced the previous 2gb (1x1gb) with the new 2x2gb RAM sticks
4. Swapped out the HDD with the SSD
When I went to boot the machine, all I get is a black screen. I can hear the optical drive spin for a while, then stop. Screen remains completely black. I have tried using C while starting as well as Control - same result. So, I put the old (erased) HDD back in and again got the same result. I didn't have time to put the old RAM back in and try again before work this morning and intend to tonight. Based on that, maybe my RAM isn't compatible even though the specs look to be...? But, does anyone know if the components I am using are not compatible? or did I totally screw up by erasing the old Drive prior to confirming this would work? Am I missing something else?
Any help would be MUCH appreciated!

I was finally able to get it done using my old RAM, so that must be the weak link. I'm going to try to return the RAM I bought and try a different brand. Thanks For the response!

Can't boot from install disc

I have my new Mac Pro setup so now I turn my attention to my old one (1.1). I wanted to reformat by boot drive and do a clean install of Snow Leopard. So, I pulled out my install disc that came with the MP and restart with the "C" held. It acts like it is going to work and then my grey screen turns a shade darker and I get the following message in about 3 or 4 different languages. "Your system must be restarted. Hold down the power key for several seconds." Essentially I was wanting to run Disk Utility to reformat the drive and then install Snow Leopard. Any ideas? Thanks

I punted. Had a newer HD sitting on the desk so I reformatted that one and switched it with my boot drive. Held down C with Snow Leopard in and the installation has started. Still can't figure out why I could not boot to my original install disc though.

Macbook Pro crashes while trying to boot from install disc

I have a 2.6GHz 17" Intel C2D MacbookPro running 10.6.6
Over the last few weeks I been experiencing numerous crashes, often while watching flash video. It freezes, the screen distorts and flashes and I have to reboot holding the power button.
Most times I can't turn it back on, it just won't get past the boot up stage. I generally try and boot from the install disc and/or another computer via firewire target mode, run permissions, disc warrior etc and eventually it will boot on it's own accord.
Now it won't even boot to the install disc. (the 10.5.2 disc that came with the computer)
It just crashes, screen dims and the 4 language warning asks me to hold down the power button.
I do notice that usually when you get these crashes that the background is a solid grey. but these times it's a speckled white and grey?
Is my graphics card on the way out (or out already)
Here's the crash logs from the last 2 crashes when I've got it to boot again.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Best regards
Jesse
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Interval Since Last Panic Report: 193634 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 2
Anonymous UUID: 28A07E22-BB69-4B77-808F-C84EEAD2BE24
Mon Feb 14 11:46:15 2011
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x001A8C8A): Kernel trap at 0x6466c15b, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x000000bc, CR3: 0x00e92000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x5549d630, EBX: 0x06969004, ECX: 0x069b7800, EDX: 0x00000000
CR2: 0x000000bc, EBP: 0x5549d668, ESI: 0x00000000, EDI: 0xffffffff
EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x6466c15b, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x069b0010
Error code: 0x00000000
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x5549d408 : 0x12b0f7 (0x458124 0x5549d43c 0x133230 0x0)
0x5549d458 : 0x1a8c8a (0x461650 0x6466c15b 0xe 0x460e00)
0x5549d538 : 0x19ece5 (0x5549d550 0x9 0x5549d668 0x6466c15b)
0x5549d548 : 0x6466c15b (0xe 0x48 0x55490010 0x646a0010)
0x5549d668 : 0x64673f44 (0xc1d00004 0x1000000 0x1000003 0x40)
0x5549d6c8 : 0x64668ecf (0x5549d858 0x6 0x0 0x0)
0x5549d828 : 0x6465c012 (0x0 0x600d600d 0x7027 0x5549d858)
0x5549d8e8 : 0x6482f54b (0xc1d00004 0x1000000 0x1000003 0x40)
0x5549d918 : 0x6483898f (0x4678f000 0x1000000 0x88100090 0x3e)
0x5549f8a8 : 0x6481cc6e (0x4678f000 0x1000000 0x15 0x4678f01c)
0x5549f9a8 : 0x64656572 (0x4678f000 0x0 0x5549fab2 0x80)
0x5549fa08 : 0x5519f5a5 (0x6988800 0x0 0x5549fab2 0x80)
0x5549fb38 : 0x551a0d74 (0x6988800 0x551a4358 0x5549fbec 0x4)
0x5549fc08 : 0x55246133 (0x6988800 0x1 0x0 0x13)
0x5549fc68 : 0x5523f93a (0x6988800 0x2407 0x5549fd2c 0x71aa6b8)
0x5549fc98 : 0x40ebc5 (0x6988800 0x71aa6b8 0x71aa6b8 0x0)
Backtrace continues...
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.NVDAResman(5.2.6)@0x64655000->0x64894fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.5.2)@0x55199000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x550ac000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.5.2)@0x55237000
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.5.2)@0x55199000->0x551a6fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x550ac000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.5.2)@0x55237000
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.5.2)@0x55237000->0x55252fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x550ac000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer
Mac OS version:
9C2028
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.2.1: Tue Feb 5 23:08:45 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.4.20~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro4,1 (Mac-F42C86C8)
Model: MacBookPro4,1, BootROM MBP41.00C1.B03, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.6 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.28f3
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 8600M GT, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: global_name
AirPort: spairportwireless_card_type_airportextreme (0x14E4, 0x8C), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.1)
Bluetooth: Version 2.3.8f7, 2 service, 12 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS722020K9SA00, 186.31 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-875
USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8502, 0xfd400000
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0230, 0x5d200000
USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x5d100000
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x1a100000
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x820f, 0x1a110000
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 193498 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 1
Anonymous UUID: 28A07E22-BB69-4B77-808F-C84EEAD2BE24
Sun Feb 13 14:58:36 2011
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x5d22e824): NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00009410: CFG 0x040710de 0x00100406 0xd2000000, BAR0 0xd2000000 0x5dda7000 0x084700a2, D0, P3/4
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x55ae36f8 : 0x21acfa (0x5ce650 0x55ae372c 0x223156 0x0)
0x55ae3748 : 0x5d22e824 (0x5d40892c 0x5d469d20 0x5d413bf0 0x0)
0x55ae37e8 : 0x5da392ba (0x851e004 0x6f85004 0x9410 0x5d31b09e)
0x55ae3828 : 0x5daeefa4 (0x6f85004 0x9410 0x55ae3888 0x9)
0x55ae3868 : 0x5d3a85c8 (0x6f85004 0x841d004 0x0 0x0)
0x55ae3888 : 0x5d31ec58 (0x841d004 0x55ae39c4 0x0 0x0)
0x55ae38d8 : 0x5da21eb9 (0x6f85004 0x3d0900 0x55ae39c4 0x0)
0x55ae39f8 : 0x5d31020a (0x6f85004 0x853dc04 0x87c500c 0x200)
0x55ae3a38 : 0x5d3795f7 (0x6f85004 0x853dc04 0x834a024 0x834a004)
0x55ae3ae8 : 0x5d37a94f (0x6f85004 0x853d004 0x0 0x0)
0x55ae3b78 : 0x5da20e19 (0x6f85004 0x853d004 0x6 0x2)
0x55ae3bf8 : 0x5da295df (0x6f85004 0x853dc04 0x1000 0x55ae3d0c)
0x55ae3d68 : 0x5daaefe4 (0x6f85004 0x853dc04 0x0 0x0)
0x55ae3e98 : 0x5d330f35 (0x6f85004 0x851e404 0x0 0x0)
0x55ae3ec8 : 0x5d237a0f (0x6f85004 0x851e404 0x0 0x0)
0x55ae3f08 : 0x548049 (0x0 0x8549500 0x1 0x29b50a)
0x55ae3f58 : 0x54707a (0x8549500 0x863ec0 0x0 0x29f596)
0x55ae3f88 : 0x5474d4 (0x80c1dc0 0x863ec0 0x0 0xffffffff)
0x55ae3fc8 : 0x29c68c (0x80c1dc0 0x0 0x10 0x6d9d3c4)
Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal(6.0.0)@0x5d934000->0x5dda6fff
dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(6.0.0)@0x5d1d7000
com.apple.NVDAResman(6.0.0)@0x5d1d7000->0x5d46afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x558bb000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.0)@0x5c4c0000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x5c5fb000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
10A432
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 10.0.0: Fri Jul 31 22:47:34 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1456.1.25~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro4,1 (Mac-F42C86C8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 1069282333804
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 2.0 (addr 0x55b9b000, size 0x12288) - last unloaded 150695453549
loaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.2d0 - last loaded 90181349778
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.0.5
com.apple.DontSteal_Mac_OSX 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPenrynProfile 17
com.apple.GeForce 6.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.4a1
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.0.2
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.0d4
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 161
com.apple.driver.ACPISMCPlatformPlugin 3.4.0a20
com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.4.5d1
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.ReadWriteDiskImage 281
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.RAMBackingStore 281
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.8.0b4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.8.0b4
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.5.0
com.apple.BootCache 31
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.0.0
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 410.91.20
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.3.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.7.8
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPIIXATA 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.AppleYukon2 3.1.14b1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 160.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 90.0.0
com.apple.security.sandbox 0
com.apple.security.quarantine 0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 2.0.11
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 90.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileReadCounterAction 17
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileTimestampAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileThreadInfoAction 14
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileRegisterStateAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileKEventAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileCallstackAction 20
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 73.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.2
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.4a1
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.7.0fc16
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.3
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 6.0.0
com.apple.NVDAResman 6.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.0.3
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.4a1
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.4a1
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a20
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.0.1d2
com.apple.iokit.AppleProfileFamily 40
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.KernelBacked 281
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 200.20
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.2f18
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 2.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.7.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 402.1
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 300.20
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.1.7
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.7.5
com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.8
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.7.8
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.3.0
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 6
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 281
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.3
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.3.0
Model: MacBookPro4,1, BootROM MBP41.00C1.B03, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.6 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.28f3
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 8600M GT, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: global_name
AirPort: spairportwireless_card_type_airportextreme (0x14E4, 0x8C), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.1)
Bluetooth: Version 2.3.8f7, 2 service, 12 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS722020K9SA00, 186.31 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-875
USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8502, 0xfd400000
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x1a100000
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x820f, 0x1a110000
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0230, 0x5d200000
USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x5d100000

jessestack wrote:
On the hand, I took it in to my local apple store. They rang me back this morning and said it that I need to replace the logic board. Which apparently also comprises the video card.
Yes, thus the link to the NVIDIA issue. NVIDIA is the maker of the GPU ("video card").
The quoted me $1000! I'm pretty bummed I need to spend that much on a 2 yr old machine. You should be able to expect more life than that.
If you're content to pay the $1000, no need to ask them to run the test for the NVIDIA issue. If you're not content, I would certainly ask them. Provide the link if they're unaware of it.
My only viable option is to buy the part off eBay and put it in myself.
Or have them test for NVIDIA issue. Or ask about a depot repair for $310.

Replaced hard drive, now can't boot from install disc to restore backup

Yesterday, my hard drive died (disk warrior informed me, that HD had irrecoverable errors, and my iMac would shut down unless it was booted from the Disk Warriorr disc).
Today, I have a new internal HD professionally installed. And when I brought it home, and installed Snow I got an error at the end of the installation "OS could not be installed, restart or choose start up disk" or something to that effect. However, on licking OK I got the snow music, and welcome movie nd eerything seemed to be working fine.
I can log in normally and have get to my desktop, but on trying to boot from the Snow Leopard disk (10.6), I get to the gray screen with the apple logo and hang. I have tried resetting Pram/firmware and also ran the fdisk command (twice).
It seems too much of a concidence that my hard drive and now my disc drive would die all in span of two days? I can hear the disc noise, but as I mentioned I cant get beyond the gray screen on trying to boot from the disc.
Suggestions?
Late Nov '07 intel iMac. And I did update the OS to 10.6.4. Install disc is 10.4.

Return it to the repair station.

Mac Pro 2008 won't boot from install disc - black screen

Hello,
I recently purchased a new hard drive to replace the original that came with my Mac Pro 2008. I was able to format the new drive using Disk Utility. I am now at the point where I need to install OS X onto the new drive, but the computer refuses to boot from the disc. The disc is recognized by the computer (I can access the disc and am able to use the BootCamp applications, etc.) but I just get a black screen when trying to boot directly from the disc. The computer boots fine otherwise.
I have tried the following:
I have tried using both the gray install disc that came with the computer and the Snow Leopard Install DVD disc.
I have tried booting using the "C" key and the "option" key but still receive a black screen following the chime (I've held these down for several minutes).
I have tried restarting from either install disc using the Bootcamp Assistant.
I have tried running the installation software to get it to restart from the disc.
I have tried a combination of the drives, i.e. trying to boot from the discs with just the new drive installed, just the original drive installed, and with both in bay1 and 2.
Everything results in the computer starting up, hearing the chime, and then nothing..just black screen. I have the original drive partitioned with BootCamp with OSX Snow Leopard and Windows 7 installed (I don't know that that matters).
I am at a loss as to what to try next. It doesn't seem like the superdrive because it is recognizing the disc, it just won't boot from it.
Any help is appreciated, thank you.

Clone should be a must and easy to do and learn (learn by doing! 2)
6800 would 'qualify' as 5x70 series flashed etc and same rule: 10.6.5
In the past there was 10.4.6, 10.5.6, but not 10.6.6 - even though strong need for such a DVD.
10.6.8 DVD would be excellent
Lion or ML - buy, download, make an installer flash card would be what I would do at this point.
Then keep both - dual boot as you learn and test and see what ML does and waht you had that required Rosetta to support PowerPC. See www.roaringapps.com about that.
With Carbon Coyp Cloner - was share, now commercial, great utility been around since 10.2.2 at least - this time 2003. 10 yrs.
You can clone the system folders, you can even selectively choose. You can skip copy of most of your home account and do that separately to another drive if you want.
Clone Windows with Paragon or WinClone and use Windows 7 or 8 DVD to do a system repair (automatic) or to edit the BCD file. It can and should - and all you do is boot Windows 7 DVD w/ only the one drive present and go at it. Piece of cake. But yes, Windows gets fussy if you change or remove or move. BCD to the rescue. A proper program for cloning like Paragon's "Clone OS" meant for going from disk drives to SSDs, knows that and how to do it.
Back to how to clone etc:
Clone
Disk utility has RESTORE which will also clone your system but not the Lion Recovery partition. Oddly Apple did not 'endorse' making bootable clone of the system which works too but most choose Carbon Copy Cloner - it works more consistently; it allows for smart update of the backup volume. Both can backup to a sparse disk image if desired.
Using Cloning as a Backup Strategy
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7032/carbon-copy-cloner
http://www.bombich.com/software/updates/ccc-3.5.html
OS X Lion Install to Different Drive
How to create an OS X Lion installation disc MacFixIt
Migration Assistant Update for Mac OS X Snow Leopard
http://www.apple.com/support/lion/installrecovery/
Create an OS X Lion Install disc
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20080989-263/how-to-create-an-os-x-lion-ins tallation-disc
How to clone your system:
http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-HowToClone-backup.html
http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-HowToClone.html
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7032/carbon-copy-cloner
http://www.macperformanceguide.com/blog/2012/20120711_2-MacPro-internal-clone-ba ckup.html
The DVD is dependent on your hardware. And your hardware changed. The drivers for the 5780 and 6xxx are bundled in the OS and lacking. Minimum build thing.
Put the new drive anywhere you want. Does not matter. Can move it later. Can be drive bay 0-3 or a Firewire external or under the DVD drive.
When you clone pull the old drive and boot from the newly cloned.
After that keep a backup clone around all the time. Takes less than 10 minutes to do a smart update to copy just the changes to keep it current. So you have working copy of the system. I keep Clone "A" that I keep "as was" the system as of last month or whatever (like 10.7.4 before upgrade to 7.5).
Comes easier after doing it once and have all your ducks in a row.

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