Reg: Blocks in BPM

Hi,
We have a scenario where the requirement is to make 'n' number of transactions with SAP System using the Block in BPM. When the number of branches are around 700 the scenario works fine. But if we have more than 1000 branches the whole scenario fails. We are not able to start the proces again in BPM also.
Regards,
Venkatesh

Hi,
>>> is to make 'n' number of transactions with SAP System using the Block in BPM
why do you need n numeber of transactions ?
do you use IDOCs ?
if you use IDOCs you can create number ot transactions (documents)
with one call - wihtout the block - idoc bundling - described in my book
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2006/10/11/xi-new-book-mastering-idoc-business-scenarios-with-sap-xi">Mastering IDoc Business Scenarios with SAP XI</a>
Regards,
michal
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions">XI / PI FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions</a>

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