Reg: dtps and infocubes,Dsos in bi 7

HI All,
Can you please explain in details about types of dtps and use(singifiance of each dtp) them in bi 7 as well as cubes and dsos, please do not send links it is difficult to get what i want.
Thanks in advance
Vis
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Edited by: Pravender on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM

Hi,
In BI 7.0 when you need update rules and transfer rules, you can create it by
right click on data target --> additional Fumctions --> create Update Rules
Using this you can create Update Rules , but only thing is the Infosource you are planning to use should be 3.X infosource.
But same functianality or you can say better functionality you can achieve by using Transformation rather than Update and Transfer rules.
I hope this satisfies your query.
Thanks,
Geetanjali.

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YES NO CANCEL
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