Reg HCM FOrms

Hi,
Can anyone give details of the differences between HCM Forms and Processes with Adobe Form based PCR's and the recommendations for the selection between the same?
Regards,
Sujana

Hi Sujana,
HCM:
The SAP ERP Human Capital Management (SAP ERP HCM) solution is a complete and integrated human capital management solution that delivers unmatched global capability. SAP ERP HCM gives organizations in all industries worldwide the tools needed to manage their most important asset: people. The solution equips executives, HR professionals, and line managers to hire the best talent, as well as train and cultivate the skills of their workforce.
Link for further details about HCM:
https://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/42/f273461e5132c3e10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm (Given by Parthasarathy in the previous message )
PCR:
SAPu2019s Personnel Change Request (PCR) is a workset thatu2019s part of Manager Self-Service (MSS) in SAP NetWeaver Portal. You can use it in almost any current SAP environment to support company-specific business processes. Custom PCR-based solutions can simplify the request submission process, automate request processing, streamline request processing and HR service center operations, and enhance overall HR data quality.
Link for further details about PCR: http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/54/957e40ec66ce62e10000000a155106/content.htm
I prefer HCM over PCR due its various advantages over PCR.
Regards,
Krishna Balaji T

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Details of the differences between HCM Forms and Processes with Adobe Form based PCR's and the recommendations for the selection between the same. Point of view on which one can be used.
Regards,
Sujana
Edited by: Sujana Reddy Kumbham on Feb 9, 2009 9:06 AM

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