Reg:Planning Strategy 40

Hi friends,
i need to know about planning strategy 40.
For EX:
1. suppose if we have planned and created PIR from january to march(quarterly plan) for any product, now if we want to change the plan how the system will behave..can we change the PIR which we have generated from JANUARY TO march.
If it is possible to chnage ,,how to change the PIR..what will be the impacts.
2' Can we create another PIR once again from january to march...or feB to march apart from existing PIR
3. suppose if i have created PIR from january to march , and splitted into daily plan, in between if the sales orders comes how this planning strategy 40 will behave.As it is make to stock.
For Ex:
We have planned 1000 numbers in the month of january, daily 50numbers production.
Suppose if we get sales order for another 2000 apart from our planning 1000numbers ,how this planning strategy will behave.
Thanks in addvance.

Dear
Planning startegy 40 works like follows :
It is basically Consumption of PIR not Reduction of PIR .
Example :Let say you have PIR for 1000 for January and it is appearing in MD04
Now you have sales order for another 2000 for same month .Here PIR quantity is less than the Sales Order Qty ! Now run MRP -MD03/MD02 -NETCH , 2,1,3,3,2 and check the Result .Here PIR will be vanished and PR/Planned of 2000PC will be appearing in MD04.So PIR is consumed by Sales Order .
Now you have PIR for 2000 and you have sales order for another 1000 for same month .Here PIR quantity is more than the Sales Order Qty ! If you goto MD04-Sales Order will not appear at all .That means Sales Order is geting fullfilled by PIR deamnd. Now run MRP -MD03/MD02 -NETCH , 2,1,3,3,2 and check the Result .Here Sales will be vanished and PR/Planned of 2000PC will be appearing in MD04.
Refer : Re: Industry wise planning strategy usage
Answer of your questions :
1.You can goto MD62-Change and add PIR questiy at Material level , Plan Numbers , Product Group Level
2.You can create but it will update th exsiting motnhly requirement in the same planning table in MD62
3.This question is answerd in the above explanation .
Hope it helps
Regards
JH

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Edited by: benny zeng on May 20, 2010 10:26 AM

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