Reg R/3 ECC6.0 as a source system to BI 7.0
Hi,
Hi All,
In my proj we r going to use same client for both R/3 & BW(BI7.0).
In this case how to establish connection bn R/3 & BW(BI7.0).
Our landscape: one server for both QED & DEV with different clents and one server for Production. we r go to use seperate prod servers for BW & R/3.
Pls help me out.
Thanks,
Bala
Hi Bala,
Check if this helps...
http://www.erpgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/MySAP%20BW%20Cookbook%20Vol%202.pdf
Regards,
R.Ravi
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I connected ECC6.0 PRD system with BI7.0 PRD system , the connection is successful,
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I found that Tcode RSA1 has ever been run in PRD ECC6.0 , So I did a connection testing of
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Thank you for your help .I got the soulution from note: 1087980 - ECC Source systems appearing in BI folder
Summary
Symptom
Source system connection for an ECC system appears in the BI folder, rather than in SAP folder, as expected.
Other terms
Wrong folder,RSA1, RSBASIDOC, RSAP_BIW_DISCONNECT
Reason and Prerequisites
Transaction RSA1 was inadvertently used on an ECC system , thereby creating a 'Myself' source system entry in RSBASIDOC table
Solution
This is just a display issue and does not cause any operational issues. Therefore, it need not be corrected, especially if the ECC system in question is used as a BI system as well.
If it is absolutely required that the ECC source system appear in the correct folder, perform the following steps.
1. Check that an entry with SRCTYPE 'M' exists in table RSBASIDOC table of ECC source system.
2. Note the values for SLOGSYS and RLOGSYS. It should be same.
3. Run the function module RSAP_BIW_DISCONNECT in the ECC system.
NOTE: Never run that function module in a BI system!
4. Enter the following values :
I_BIW_LOGSYS <RLOGSYS> as noted in step 2
I_OLTP_LOGSYS <SLOGSYS> as noted in step 2
I_FORCE_DELETE <X>
< DO NOT ENTER ANY VALUE IN THE FIELD - RFC target sys !!!!! >
5. Go to RSA1-> Source systems in the BI system connected to the ECC system.
6. Select the ECC source system and select RESTORE in the right click menu.
Now the ECC system should appear in the SAP folder.
If running RSAP_BIW_DISCONNECT results in an error like OTHER_ERROR, please check if a valid RFC connection exists in transaction sm59.
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We have a SAP BI 701 sytem mapped to our 4.7 Non Unicode source system.
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Transport Connection
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One server can have several systems but with different client and with different logical system anem. Now if logical name is same, they source system connection is not possible. Logical system name can be changed in t-code SCC4, but please do consult basis person before doing this as this is bit sensitive.
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We have installed ECC6.0 system recently with two clients say 500 for R/3 and 600 for BI7.0.
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See SAP Help
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/00/dc54384ac9a81be10000009b38f8cf/content.htm
Connecting ECC6.0 and SAP BI
Setting-Up a Connection between BW and R/3 for Data Load
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Configuring RFC in BI7 for connecting ECC6 server:
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MohanMohan,
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Is this method supported in SAP ? Or we strictly have to use SAPinst to do export and import method. In any case our source and target platform is not going to chance as per our scenario.
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Harshal> Thanks for the quick response. Is their any document that says it is not supported ? Because of no proper document that says no to do it, client want's to try it out.
For the ABAP part this is certainly feasible.
The Java part has not only issues with the secure store but also with SID and hostname. The old values are stored in many places in the database and in, depending on the applications installed, many .properties files in the filesystem. So it would be not enough to somehow regenerate the secure store but also change hostname and SID in different places that are not really all documented.
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Error when creating SAP source-system in RSA1
hi,
we have a new bi-installation. the bi-system is running in the SAME system as our erp 2005-system is running.
the bi-client is 700, our source-system (FI/CO) client is 101. I want to create a source-system in RSA1. at the end i get the following error message:
<b>Name D01MAND700 of client 700 is not the same as the name D01MAND101 of the Warehouse
Message no. R3225
Diagnosis
In order to guarantee error-free communication between the source system and the SAP Business Information Warehouse, the logical system names must be known to both.
The system has established that the selected source system name D01MAND101 in the SAP Business Information Warehouse is not the same as the logical system name D01MAND700.
System Response
Processing has been terminated and all changes undone.
Procedure
Create the source system under the name D01MAND700 in the SAP Business Information Warehouse or change the logical system name for client 700 to D01MAND101 in the ALE customizing screen of the source system.
Note that the logical system name for client 700 may already be being used for other ALE scenarios. If this is the case you are not able to change the name.</b>
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reg, Martinmr. kapadia,
there is one entry in table rsbasidoc, and it looks like that:
SLOGSYS D01MAND700
RLOGSYS D01MAND700
OBJSTAT ACT
BIDOCTYP ZSCA017
TSIDOC3X 0
TSPREFIX CA
SRCTYPE M
SAPREL 700
TSTPNM D78358
TIMESTMP 20.070.622.093.042
SBWBCRL 700
RBWBCRL 700
looks strange, right ? what should i do ? delete this entry ? how can i do this, it is a customizing table, i cant delete it via SE16 ?!?
reg, Martin -
Hi all,
When i run an infopackage its getting failed throwing out an error
"An error occurred in the source system.
System Response
Caller 09 contains an error message."
I have replicated the Data source and when i try activating it i am getting the following errors
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MADhuHi,
Might be some issue in Data Source when you replicating it in BW system.
Check RFC connections between the Source and Target.
Could you mention the error message clearly.
Reg
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