Reg: Sampling procedure .

Dear friends,
Currently we are implementing QM for process industry.
I need your valuable inputs on Sampling procedure. what exactly meant by sampling procedure.
How to configure for sampling procedure.
Thanks in Advance.

You acn get many threads & Input if you go through the sdn but I will try to explaain you & give you some input for sampling procedure for process industry............
Sampling procedure simply means how samples are going to determine the a char & a Inspction lot.......
sampling procedure has sampling type like "percentage ,100% ,fixed sampling or with sampling procedure......which has valuation type like manual ,attribute or variable depending upon the mic used.
In Process industry sampling procedure can be used with Inspection point or without inspection points.
QPV1 is t code for sampling procedure. Mianly customization related to sampling procedure is by default available in SAP QM.
Explore SAP help &
Also refer :
Re: Sampling Procedure
Assign the sampling procedure aginst each MIC & chek using some manual inspection lot in QA01 to see the effect of sampling ype & valuation type.........

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reg,
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Dear Velu,
Please go through the following link..........
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/44/fb8928a95e11d2839e0000e829fdb3/frameset.htm
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number of nonconforming units are allowed.
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Hi,
During creation of inspection plan you can assign SP at plant level, IP always at plant level
Q.Error message is - You can not use sampling procedure here.
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THE LOT SIZE OF THE PRODUCTION ORDER MUST BE THE SAME OF SAMPLING SIZE.
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Hi Rajaram,
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Hi Vinay,
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Hello Sir,
Thanks for your valuable reply. I have progressed on this. I need some more help.
Let us park DMR for a while. DMR is working fine. But I have some issues in results recording.
Let us only work only with sampling procedure with sampling scheme.
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1)
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3)
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4)
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1)
In sampling scheme
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2)
In sampling procedure
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Usage of Sampling Procedure with Inspection Points

Hi Experts,
Does any one have an idea whether we can use sampling procedure with free inspection points apart from In-Process Quality Inspection (Inspection Type 03)?
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Edited by: Arun Mann on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 AM

hi
check the links canhelp you
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/2d/350c26448c11d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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No Sampling Procedures in In-Process Quality Inspection (origin 03, insp. points 100)

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I am facing a problem while attaching master inspection characteristics etc. in a master recipe (C202). I first specify inspection points as 100 in the recipe header (quality data section) and then I go to the operations section, select a phase and go into the area where I can attach MICs, methods and procedures. Now, no matter what kind of MICs I add there ( ones that require a sampling procedure, of course, as it is my need) it does not let me browse (F4) on the mandatory sampling procedure field. I have created all kinds of sampling procedures (freely defined inspection points, without inspection points, manual valuation, spc, fixed, 100% - all combinations) but the mandatory sampling procedure field does not let me browse for sampling procedures. If I directly type a name, it says that the procedure is not suitable for inspection points (100 that I defined) despite the sampling procedure being a freely defined inspection points one or any other. This is only in the case of inspection points/in-process/master recipe. otherwise normal GR usage 5 plans are working fine. Any help? It's urgent. Thank you!
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You can achieve this by using Sampling Determination "300-Sample schema" If require modify Function Module "QDRS_SAMPLING_PLAN_SAMPLE"
Thanx!!

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I need to use sampling procedure only for C class items. Now what settings i need to make while creating sampling procedure,sampling scheme, assigning it to plan.
request to elaborate on the points, as i am new to QM.

1.Create sampling scheme: QDP1
enter the lot size and sample size here.
2.Create sampling procedure : QDV1
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Difference between Sampling Procedure and Sample-drawing procedure

Friends,
I am new to QM and started learning QM Module. My doubt is what is the difference between Sampling Procedure and Sample-drawing procedure?
The reason for my doubt is, we can determine the sample quantity with Sampling procedure itself. then what is the need of sample-drawing procedure?
Also describe primary, pooled and reserved samples.
Regards,
IMIMINT

Hi,
Sampling Procedure
Definition
A procedure that contains the rules for determining the sample size for an inspection. The sampling procedure also specifies the type of valuation to use for results recording (attributive, variable, or manual).
Use
You assign a sampling procedure to each characteristic in an inspection plan to calculate the sample size.
Sample-Drawing Procedure
Definition
A master data object in which you plan the drawing of physical samples. In the sample-drawing procedure, you specify:
Which categories of physical samples must be drawn
How many physical samples must drawn
The size of each physical sample
Whether the drawing of physical samples must be confirmed
Use
The system uses the information in the sample-drawing procedure together with the information in the inspection plan to calculate the physical sample sizes, and to create physical-sample records when an inspection lot is created.
Primary Sample : It is the sample drawn from the lot directly.
Pooled Sample : It is the sample whcih is combination of 2 or more primary samples.i.e. primary sample sfrom say 3 differetn drums is mixed and tested.
Reserved Sample :sample which is preserved for the testing in future.
or in other words
Primary samples (1st stage)
Physical samples drawn directly from a material or batch that will be inspected or used to create pooled samples.
Pooled samples (2nd stage)
Physical samples to be created by mixing the contents of two or more primary samples from the same material or batch.
Reserve samples
Primary physical samples drawn from a material or batch reserved for future inspection.
Vishal
Edited by: VISHAL JONNALWAR on Feb 4, 2010 6:43 AM

HU Management v/c QA management in Sampling procedure

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We are trying to implement HU management in our new project, we are find difficulty in QA sampling procedure. there is no provision for sampling quantity at the time UD.
Plz help me
Thanks in advance
Raj

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We are trying to implement HU management in our new project, we are find difficulty in QA sampling procedure. there is no provision for sampling quantity at the time UD.
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Valuation mode in sampling procedure

Dear all,
I have a doubt that if we ll give valuation parameters as Attributive inspection while creating sampling scheme and we can assign the same sampling scheme in ths sampling procedure. But in the sampling procedure if we choose valuation mode as Manual valuation means what will happen?
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Kindly clear my doubt.
Regards
Karthik

Hi,
An attributive inspection (OK or not OK) is an acceptance sampling inspection. This means that the number of nonconforming units or the number of defects in a sample determines the acceptability of the inspection lot. ISO 2859 serves as a standard for attributive inspections. The Quality Management component has two valuation procedures for attributive inspections:
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Attributive inspection based on the number of defects
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