Reg Third party PO

Hi All ,
Can We have a setup in SAP so that we can combine a third party delivery with the
inbound delivery process i,e Aim is to deliver directly from subcontractor to end customer via inbound delivery creation. After the inbound delivery (GR) the subcomponents needs to be
backflushed so the stock at vendor is adapted accordingly.
Thanks and Regards,
Mallik.

Std SAP can not support this process.
you can develope a custom solution to handle this scenario.

Similar Messages

Reg Third party order processing.

Hi Gurus,
Please help me on the following questions.
1. In third party order processing how costing is updated?
2. How automatic purchase requisition will be generated in third party order processing?
3. Explain about Third party returns process step wise?
Thanks in advance,msi.
Regards,
Vamsi P

HI vamsi
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *--
In Details:----
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
      Enter
      Sold to
      PO #
      Material
      Quantity
      Enter
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
      Order Number
      Goto Item Overview
      Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
      Key in the PR number
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
      Key in the PR number
      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
      Assign Automatically button
      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
      The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
      Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
      PO Number
      DN Number
      Batch tab , click on classification
      Serial Numbers tab
      Date of Production
      Flag Item OK
      Check, just in case
      Post
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
      Invoice Date
      Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
      Check the box
      Clilck on "Copy"
      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
      State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
      Save
reward if helpful.
Regards,
Prashant

Reg: Third party issue

Hi All,
Thiis PO is tied to an SO, now it is a third party order to DEF.
therefore, DEF has to deliver the item to our customer
but our customer just cancelled the order
Now we have nothing to do but to just ship the item to DES instead and put it to our freestock
but because the PO is Y S or third party and also done the delivery cost invioce.
we cannot do MIGO
To receive the item on stock what other option needs to be done so we could receive the item on stock.
Please give me the valid input on this.
Thanks & Regards
Siva

sivakumar Annamalai Shanmugam wrote:
> Dear Jürgen L,
>
> Thaks for your reply.
>
> yet i think we will have a problem asking GSI to cancel the invoice that was already issued to us.
>
> first is that they will not accept the cancellation of the invoice and second, item is already with us.
>
> any other way to do this?
>
> wat if we just go through the whole process of creating the DN and the Invoice after the MIRo
>
> then we issue return so it will be returned to GPP stock is that possible?
>
> Thaks & Regards
>
> Siva
I dont know who GSI is.
I am not saying that your vendor has to cancel the invoice.
You have to cancel the invoice receipt
Then you can change the PO.
Then you post the invoice again (just against the new item)
your vendor is not effected by this.

Reg third party inspection purchase order

Dear all,
please help in mapping scenario
We get a sales order to send boiler-2 nos and panel-1 no to a customer, here panel is an inhouse production material and boilers are manufactured at a vendors site, inorder to have control over vendors process we rise an purchase order to third party to inspect each and every operation at vendors site,how we can rise a purchase order for inspection to third party as soon as we receive a sales order
can we collect the cost of inspection ina production order
Thanks in advance.

Dear Venumadhav
Can give you some ideas on this
1
1) please create a routing for this material with a control key with External processing tick in it
2) keepone operation in the Routing with activity type for capturing Inspection cost
3) So when production order is created automacticaly PR and PO can be created
For external processing operations, the system generates a purchase requisition from the production order and then generates a purchase order from the purchase requisition.
Posting:
The costs of the external service (including any provided parts) are assigned directly to the production order (to the WIP inventory).
Any differences are assigned to the production order by the GR/IR clearing function.
2) Regarding inspection you can have inspection at the GR of the PO or you can have source inspection where in using QM order you can capture the inspection cost.
Please put the same question in PP forum for a better solution
Regards
Gajesh

Reg third party inspection

Dear all,
please help regarding mapping of scenario, we get a sales order to deliver boiler and a panel board and we give purchase order to procure boiler to a vendor but to have control over the process we hire a third party to carryout inspection at vendor site at each and every stage.
how to map this scenario
Thanks in advance

hi,
Try to create manually inspection lot for what stages inspection is carried out and record the results maintain the relevent inspection type for the material.
Thanks and Regards
Mohan

Reg: Third Party Flow Setup

Hi Guru,
i need Customizing and flow of Transaction for the Third Party setup Document. please provide the valid information on this.
Thanks
BR
Siva

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
The processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally, can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing
If a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
When you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
You process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Goods receipt will be posted when ever the vendor ships the goods to our customer.
We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
Invoice receipt is done when the Vendor sends us the invoice.. ( I.e Billing ).
It can be done using MIRO.
THe above two steps are standard and manual. There are many other ways that the actual process can happen. If the client follows EDI standards then the Goods receipt and Invoice receipt can be done through IDOCs automatically.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procurement type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurement ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
Step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to configure the item category determination
Order type + item cat Group + Usage + High level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevant for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line category for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requisition order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requisition.
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1600/V5600/BBLibrary/HTML/114_EN_IN.htm
regards,
indranil

Reg third party application can integrate with SAP Business one

Dear All
I have a typical requirement , i want to know how can it be done in SAP Business One.Our client have other application based product , he is doing all the transactions in that.He has another
DB. that is SAP Business One. Now we want to syncronize the data between two databases. i.e if he enters a Sales order in other based that should be inserted to B1 and vice versa. Not only marketting documents but masters also and financial documents also. I hope it is possible using B1 integration Technology. Can you pls let me know how it can be done. any solution to be suggested is accepted.
please do the needful.
Regards
M Auditya

Hi,
Actually i guess i could be possible but I'm not 100% sure on the level of integration. I recommend u to download the B1iSN and have a look at the doc.. Operation_Guide_Subsidiary_Integration_EN.pdf, And a lot depends on the database the 3rd party software is using.
Hope it helps,
Vasu Natari.

Reg:Integrate third party xml file into sap in RFC without using XI

Hai Experts,
i have a third party web page which is converted to IDOC XML file .i have to get the file and integrate to sap .
Can u suggest ways of doing it.
Regards,
Vikram

Hai Experts,
i have a third party web page which is converted to IDOC XML file .i have to get the file and integrate to sap .
Can u suggest ways of doing it.
Regards,
Vikram

Return Of goods in Third Party Process

How to Take back goods Return of Third Party Sale Process?
Is Following Process Correct?
1)Third Party Order
2)Third Party Invoice(Dispatch from Vendor to Customer)
3)Return Order(with ref. to Invoice)
4)Return Delivery
5)Credit Memo
what are the Excise implications?
Reg,
Amol

SAP best practice does not tell you to create a return order and retrn delivery for 3rd party shipments. Generally, you would not like to take back the goods in your own plant for goods that were delivered by a 3rd party.
The customer would directly send back the goods to the 3rd party and you just issue a credit memo to the customer (can be w.r.t the original order or invocie). The company will then create a debit memo to the vendor.
If your client takes back the goods in his own warehouse, then you can follow the process of return delivery or else it is not required .

SD / Third Party Sales / 2 line items in PR for one line item in Sales orde

Hi
In a third party scenario, I have item category TAS .When I create a sales order, there are 2 Schedule lines for the item. The first SL has confirmed qnty as 0 and the second SL has confirmed qnty as full quantity ( say50). When I save the sales order, it creates a PR as expected. However the PR has 2 line items for this single line item of SO. Each PR line items have the same quantity, in this case 50. Why is this happening. Is it due to some configuration.
All my SD configurations are fine for third party process. Please let me know if somebody faced this situation and solved it.
In crux, one line item in third party process leads to 2line items in PR , each with the quantity as mentioned in teh confirmed schedule line.

Yes interesting to see multiple scheudle lines during TAS processing.
Also please check the scehdule line category. Should be CS. Also check the MRP type in your material.
CS should have Order Type = NB , Item category = 5, Acct Assign Category = 5, incompletion = 31. Rest all fields should be blank or unchecked.
Pur Requisition will be based on the scehdule lines. Since there are 2 schedule lines, you have two line items in the purchase requisition. If you can fix the multiple schedule lines problem in your order, then your requisition looks good.
Please check note 210417 reg av chk for TAS.
Regards
Sai

Third Party Purchase order

Hello Guru's,
Heres my scenario,
I have a BOM with components A,B,C and C is a subassemly which has a component D,
and C is purchased from a vendor X and D is Purchased from a vendor Y.
So when I create a Purchase order for D to the vendor Y,the vendor Y should send the material to the vendor X and this vendor X will now make the subassembly C using the material D.and send it to my plant.
Also vendor Y should bill me for the material and not the vendor X,
Also the goods reciept for the material D should be done at me and not at the Vendor X,
The Physical inventory for D should be maintained at the vendor X and the GR posting should be done by me
Please suggest how do i do the Third party order in this scenario.
Regs
Dardo

Hai,
      Here u r Purchasing material D from vendor Y means u need to create a PO aganist this vendor and u need to do GR to ur unristricted stock.
      Then create a PO for subcontracting to vendor X for material C. Issue material D to this Subcontracting PO with Mvt Type 541.
       For Billing also there is no problem u can settle the bill to Y for his supplies and U can settle Bill for X for his Subcontracting charges.
Ok any quries come back.
Bye

Diff. types of Third Party Sales?

Hi All,
what r different types of Third party Sales?
One i know is high Sea Sales ????
Correct me if i am wrong.
Reg,
Amol

Hi,
There are two types of 3rd party sales
1) Vendor drop shipment (Vendor will directly deliver the stock to the customer)
In this scenario no GR will be done
2) 3rd party sales via individual purchase order (Which is creation of PO and receive the stock from the vendor which in turn deliver the stock to the customer )
In this scenario GR will be done
Thank you,
Ram
Edited by: Ram 1979 on Jan 11, 2010 12:46 PM

Sap sd-third party sales

when the order is rised for third party material (HAWA) the system is saying consumption account canot be determined
tell me the solution to rectify it soon

hi
go through below links
Reg.Consumption account cann't be determined
Reg.Consumption account cann't be determined
Reg.Consumption account cann't be determined
Reg.Consumption account cann't be determined
Re: Consumption account cann

TP Posting Third Party Remittance Documents Status Incorrect

Hi everyone,
I have run payroll to an employee and posted the results to FI Posting. Documents are posted in FI Posting. By using Tcode PC00_M99_URME - Evaluation Remittance (New) I am able to do the third party evaluation for this employee. Until this step the system is working fine. But when I am trying to execute using the T code PC00_M99_URMP - Create Posting run the system is generating incorrect documents.
The message its showing is
Messages for Document 0000002282Error in document: HRPAY 0000002282 LOG_800 ( Error Message )
No data was transferred in parameter ACCOUNTPAYABLE (Error Message)
Regarding configuration everything is correct in HR, I verified several times.
Kindly let me know is there some thing to do reg vendors in FI such that vendors information will be updated in FI.
Does anyone faced the similar issue earlier.
If anyone has an idea in resolving the above issue please guide me.
Your advices are very much appreciated.
Thanks,
lalitha.

Thanks for your quick response.
I verified the configuration, but I haven't noticed any issue.
The problem I noticed is when we run third party evaluation run the amount of sign should be changed fron negative to positive. but its not changing.
The processing class 73 has specification 1.
Kindly let me know if you have any idea why amount sign is not reserved.
Regards,
Lalitha.

Rush orders with third party delivery-?

Hi Gurus
I have seen the scenario -
Rush orders are creating third party sales .
Rush orders means Immidiate delivery will create and also in our configuraion same.
But third party item category measn delivery from vendor.
My question is how it possible-?
Please any body can give solution on this.
Thanks
Kris

pls under stand the deference between 3 party and rush order
rush order means immediate delivery created when you save the sales order ( where you have the stock and you are going to service it )
3 party means where the 3 person is going to service the material with reference to your sales order that is
your sales order triggers a purchase reg and converted to PO and the 3 party vendor supply material to you and you supply to the orderd person
so it is not a correct process to have a rush order in 3 party processing

Reg Third party PO

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for