Regaining space from (networked) TM backup

Hi everyone,
I use TM to backup to an OS X Server. Since this backup is done over the network, Backups.backupdb is automatically inside a sparseimage, which is all nice and correct. For unrelated reasons I need to copy this sparseimage file to another HD, but it's a few GB too big for that. So I went into TM's +space interface+, selected a few folders and chose to remove all backups of them via the gear menu. TM did that just fine as I can verify by manually mounting and browsing the sparseimage. The old backups are all gone, BUT the image file is still exactly the same size!
I know that sparseimages are self-growing archives, but I thought I would get the file smaller that way?!
Any ideas which steps I need to take to actually get the file smaller?

Although sparseimages grow dynamically they don't shrink dynamically. You can however use the terminal to compact the image.
hdiutil compact "Name of file.sparseimage"

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