Regarding 3rd Party Sales

Dear All,
I have created a sales order with item category TAS.
Not able to generate a purchase requisition for the same please help.
Regards
Atul

hi atul ,
go to VA02-ITEM DATA-SCHEDULE LINE DATA- THERE AT THE LAST COLUMN U WL GET THE PR NO.
REWARD IF HELPFUL

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How to Prevent Workflow when Automatic PO created in 3rd Party Sales

Hello,
We have set up a special Sales Document Type for the purpose of 3rd party sales. The item category is TAS, so the Purchase requisition gets created automatically.
The problem is that when the Sales Order is saved, it starts a Business Workflow and sends an email to our EDI Technical Team. We want to disable the workflow functionality in this sales document because it is not needed.
Is there a way to disable ALE for a sales document type?
Thanks very much!

Hi,
Please review the following notes for more information:
550388 FAQ: Customizing of third-party and individual Pos
210997 Accnt assignmt categoriesin third-party and indiv.P
On creating Purchase order for requirement created for a customer sales order stock, if the customer sales order stock is not valuated, this means a Consumption ( GBB ) account is involved here. If the posting is a consumption account, SAP allows the user to decide whether it should be autotmatically or manually entered. Because of this option, system need this account to be set with Field 'Automatic posting only' to ' '.
With this field 'Automatic posting only' setting to ' ', whether the account can be automatically or manually entered is then controlled by the field status in the PO creation. If you do not want the user to enter the account manually, then this account should be set to display mode in PO.
If the customer sales order stock is valuated, then in General business process, this would involve a BSX ( material account )
postings. Normally this is automatically derived during PO creations. No manual enterring is allowed. Thus if it is correct to set this account with field Automatic posting only' setting to 'X' in FI settings.
Please read the note 37563.
Please check if note 842977 is present in your system.
regards
Waman

In 3rd party sales error -consumption a/c not assigned to PO auto a/c assig

Dear Friends,
while creating va01 for 3rd party sales , error -consumption a/c not assigned to purchase order automatic account assignment.
i need to do obyc setting for gbb in need to select a/c modifier -what is that ?
SO is a cost object.
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nagesh

Hi,
Please review the following notes for more information:
550388 FAQ: Customizing of third-party and individual Pos
210997 Accnt assignmt categoriesin third-party and indiv.P
On creating Purchase order for requirement created for a customer sales order stock, if the customer sales order stock is not valuated, this means a Consumption ( GBB ) account is involved here. If the posting is a consumption account, SAP allows the user to decide whether it should be autotmatically or manually entered. Because of this option, system need this account to be set with Field 'Automatic posting only' to ' '.
With this field 'Automatic posting only' setting to ' ', whether the account can be automatically or manually entered is then controlled by the field status in the PO creation. If you do not want the user to enter the account manually, then this account should be set to display mode in PO.
If the customer sales order stock is valuated, then in General business process, this would involve a BSX ( material account )
postings. Normally this is automatically derived during PO creations. No manual enterring is allowed. Thus if it is correct to set this account with field Automatic posting only' setting to 'X' in FI settings.
Please read the note 37563.
Please check if note 842977 is present in your system.
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The item is not relevant for billing. 3rd Party Sale

Hello, experts,
I have met a problem in 3rd party sale scenario. Here is the situation:
1. I have created a sales order using a 3re party item (item category: tas and billing type: order-related billing). And the PR is generated successfully at the schedule line level.
2. In the next step, I have created PO with reference to this PR.
3. As in my situation, the items are sent to customer by vendor directly, there is no need to maintain MIGO and MIRO.
4. I try to creat billing with reference to the sales order and here appears the error. The log shows:
"The item is not relevant for billing."
There are actually many threads in the forum and I have tried much of them.
I have checked firstly in VOV8 the sales order type->the order-related billing type for OR(standard sales order) is F2.
VOV7 the item category type->tas billing relevance: F (order-related billing)
VTFA the copy control->F2 with OR and in the item level, the item category tans is also maintained.
I can not decide where the problem is. Any idee?
Thanks,
Fan

Hi
3. As in my situation, the items are sent to customer by vendor directly, there is no need to maintain MIGO and MIRO.
This statement is absolutely wrong
MIGO is optional in third party transactions and MIRO is a Must
Third party item cat billing relevance is F
F: Order-related billing doc. - status according to invoice quantity
Relevant for order-related billing documents based on the invoice receipt quantity (third-party business transaction). The system transfers the order into the billing due list only after the vendor invoice has been received and processed in the purchasing department. After the receipt of each invoice, a customer invoice is created for the quantity that appears on the vendor invoice. The order has status "Billed" until the next vendor invoice is received.
Item category TAS (Third party item) is set up with billing relevance "F" in the standard system.
This is the SAP explanation of F billing relevance
Maintain the copy control settings in VTFA as suggested by the other friend
Without MIRO you cannot invoice the customer in third party
Regards
Raja

Schedule line confirmation date for 3rd party sales( non stock item)

Hi ,
While creating an sales order i have a stock item and 4 non stock items . All the non stok items are similar to 3rd party sales as they are services . While created the sales order for the no stock item the confirmed schedule date is given as 12 days in the future or in one case after month .
Can someone please help me in understanding how the dates are being calculated . I havent created any PO for the non stock items.
I would like the confirmed date to be picked as the system date.

Hi,
There can be multiple reasons for this.
You have not mentioned the material type. Anyhow, first check Material Master
Purchasing view> GR Processing Time field
Sales / general Plant > Set up time and processing time field
If MRP views are maintained
In MRP2 View > Scheduling.
In case you do not want availability check to be carried out
Untick Availbility check and TOR check boxes in VOV6 for the schedule lines determined for these materials.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Sharan

Re: Differentiate Normal Sales vs 3rd Party Sales

Hi all,
The standard system would allow the creation of normal sales and 3rd Party sales under the same Order Type and same Billing Type. It is controlled using the item categories.
As such, I would like to understand how I can use the standard Sales or Billing Report to differentiate the normal Sales and/or Billing document against the 3rd Party Sales.
Please assist.
Thanks.
Rgds.

Hi,
The item category will be different for normal sales and third party sales.( TAN & TAS).
To differentiate the sales for normal & third party.
Create a query using VBAK ,VBAP, VBRK,VBRP and give input selection field as item category.
REgards,
KRishna O:

Departure country determination for 3rd party sales order

Hello,
We are creating a 3rd party sales order and using dummy plants and dummy shillping point. we do not have plants abroad activated.
While creating the intercompany billing doc the departure country is not picked up correctly since we have dummy plant and shipping point.
We want the departure country to be same as suppliers country. and we do not know the supplier details at the point of sales order creation.
what can we do to get the correct departure country during intercompany billing?
Regards,
Shilpa

You can go through OSS Note 308989 - Consulting note for cross-company transactions, which provides details on cross-company with 3rd party sales process. Make sure that the delivery plant added in the sales order is assigned to the cross company code.
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Availibility check in 3rd Party sales..

Hi !! Gurus,
How availibility check is done in 3rd party sales.
As material is going from vendor to the customer directly. Whether we have to maintain some storage location saying vendors material ?
Regards,
Atul

Hi Atul,
There is no standard solution, But most of the clients follow these steps..
maintain vendor storage location or depository - This is similar to reqular storage location.
When vendor updates his stock on weekly basis update your stock in that storage location.
everything similar to regular storage location, but availability and other factors are not as accurate as clients own stock.
Some times clients even follow availability request form procedure too.. In which they will send a form/ just word document to reserve the stock at vendor location. SO will be on block for vendor approval...once they recieve approval from vendor, they will process document.
Let me know, if you have any questions/concerns
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OBYC- 3rd Party sales

Dear Friends,
Weu2019re configuring 3rd party sales scenario. In VA01 sys was giving err: u201CNot possible to determine a consumption accountu201D. We removed this err by assigning a G/L in OBYC-> GBB-> COA-> 0001VAX3100. Although the error was solved. But our concern is that from which setting the system is picking the key u201CVAXu201D? It was not mov. typ 601. Mat. Type is HAWA.
Plz help.
Thank you.

Hi
There are too many threads on this topic
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Third Party order processing in Sales
Third party order in Sales (in case of external procurement)
In this business scenario Company A accept the sales order of customer and asked third company/Vendor to deliver the goods and bills you. Subsequently you raise the invoice to the customer.
In this scenario Material type plays important role. While creating material in material master , material type to be selected as Trading goods and Item category group is BANS in sales :Sales org 2 tab and Procurement type to marked as F in MRP 2 Tab.
Item category - TAS - Maintain Billing relevance in VOV7 as F.
Schedule line category- CS-This is standard schedule line category is provided by SAP for Third party Sales.If you need to change, copy it and make necessary changes.
CS triggers purchase requisition automatically in the back ground when save the sales order.
Assignment - CS to TAS in VOV5 and TAS to your order type in VOV4.
Company A creates Sales order and Saves it. As soon as it is saved Purchase requisition is created in the back ground (Due to schedule line category)and authorized person converts it to purchase order and ask vendor to supply the goods to the customer. The vendor sends the bill to the company A. Company verifies the Invoice and raise invoice to the Customer.
The sequence of T-codes is VA01- ME21N- MIRO-VF01
It is assumed that MM and SD module are in place.
Regards
Raja

Can't get my 3rd Party Sales Order to create the PO automatically...

I'm trying to get the 3rd Party Sales Order process to work and I would like it to create the PO automatically (it is already creating the requisition without issue). I have:
i) Set the Auto PO on the Item Category
ii) Set the ALE paramenters asociated with the Sales Org definition
iii) Set the Auto PO on the Vendor Master
iv) Set the Auto PO flag on the Purchasing tab of my NLAG material
v) Created a Vendor Info record
BUT I still don't get a PO being created automatically .... can anyone see where the problem may be?
Thanks.

Hi Dennis - I really appreciate the feedback but I started this thread with ....
I'm trying to get the 3rd Party Sales Order process to work and I would like it to create the PO automatically (it is already creating the requisition without issue). I have:
i) Set the Auto PO on the Item Category
ii) Set the ALE paramenters asociated with the Sales Org definition
iii) Set the Auto PO on the Vendor Master
iv) Set the Auto PO flag on the Purchasing tab of my NLAG material
v) Created a Vendor Info record
BUT I still don't get a PO being created automatically .... can anyone see where the problem may be?
I have since confirmed that I can trigger a PO creation by running ME59N BUT the PO is not created automatically when I save the sales order despite what the help text on the item category implies.
I think I have already done every you have suggested and even a little more, or maybe I'm missing something? Do I need to do something with ALE - turn something on perhaps? Have you actiually seen this functionality working? I'd love to hear from someone who has.
Regards.
Patrick

3rd party sales MIRO

Hi all
i have query regarding the 3rd party sales, I raise a sales order for say 100 quantity and PR will get generate and PO will be created and we need do the MIRO.for example vendor sent only 70 instead of 100 quantity.when i do MIRO, quantity is coming 100. should i need to change manual or is there any other process. Pls let me know.
thanks in advance
Regards,
Nagesh

In 3rd party, generally we do statistical MIGO- GR for the received qty. Though its optional. But for the short qtty received you have to change manually while performing MIRO transaction.
Where as in Customer Invoice- Billing, system will read the GR or IR qtty for billing ( based on customization done customization done in VOV7-for item category- Billing relevance)
Regards,
Reazuddin MD

3rd party sales process (w/o ship notif) - Billing

Hi experts,
In billing of 3rd party sales process, is it possilble to take the GR date as billing doc. date?
Is it in customizing? or I have to do it in copy control?
Thanks in adavnce.
Cheers,
Kenneth

Hi,
Billing date is always derived from the Payment terms available in Sales order. But as such i have not see any requirement to consider GR date as billing date.
Seems logical.
Regards,
Reazuddin MD

3rd Party Sales Scenario

I have yet another scenario to know about.......
Suppose there are some bought out items which are being delivered free of cost to the customer with the stock items, then do we need to configure the 3rd party sales scenario?
These materials are bought in bulk and kept in stock and not on order to order basis.
Await advice.

There is no need to use Third Party Sales since the procurement is not based on sale order. You have to follow the regular procurement scenario and then determine them in the sale order using free goods determination.
Regards,
GSL.

ACCOUNT DETERMINATION "INTERCOMPANY SALES &3RD PARTY SALES" -kishore,AK ,

HI ,
 Rajesh , Kishore , AK ,
 well 2day i had client interview , he was very much stressing on " ACCOUNT DETERMINATION " process in intercompany sales , both in ordering comapny and delvering plant .
 At the same time account determination for 3rd party sales . well got some docs had brief capsule study , still stuck up .
 can u pl throw come clarity .
Regards,
jerry

Dear Jerry
Inter-Company Scenario in SAP is quite different than its literal meaning.
Inter-Company means, customer gives order to company code A (PlantA), but Plant A is not having stock, so it passes on to Plant B(CoCd B).So in Sales order of A you enter Plant B.
So now goods are delivered by Plant B to Customer and commercial invoice for customer is from CoCd A.
Cocd B just gives inter company invoice.
Now Comming to account determination , it totally depends on pricing procedure as account keys are there. There is not much difference from standard scenario, but you can have seperate G/L Accounts
If you are talking about sales between different company codes, then this can be handled having different sales document and thus different pricing procedure, you can ask customer , what is there requirement. and can say that it is like normal sales cycle only
Third-Party Processing
1) two standard process provided by SAP in the frames of the third-party processing:
a) pure third-party process: X creates the sales order, automatically purchase requision and later a purchase order will be created at the vendor. Then the vendor sends the goods directly to your customer and send the invoice to X. The company X creates the invoice to the customer Y.
b) individual purchase order: the same process, but the vendor sends the goods not to the customer directly, but first to X, and then the company X delivers the goods to the customer Y. The invoice is coming from Z to X (transaction MIRO), and then X creates invoice to Y.
you can refer the accounting document to get Idea of account determination
Regards
Jitesh

Screenshots on BOM & 3rd Party Sales configuration

Hi all,
Can anyone send me the screenshots on BOM & 3rd Party Sales configuration ?
My id : [email protected]
Appreciate your information and will definitely reward points.
Regards
Rajarshi

Hi Rajarshi,
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procurement type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurement ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
Step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to configure the item category determination
Order type + item cat Group + Usage + High level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevant for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line category for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requisition order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requisition
Hope this will help you alot and Please Reward If Really Helpful,
Cheers,
Govind.

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