Regarding A2A & B2B Scenario development in SAP PI /XI?

Hello Experts,
Kindly clarify my doubt regarding A2A & B2B Scenario's development in SAP PI / XI.
I mean when to use & which adapter user in which scenario & specifically what difference does it make when we use one adapter in one scenario meant for another one. Will it work?
The Question may be quite Naive to all of you but still want to clear some thing from my head.
Best Regards
Priyesh Shah

Hi Inaki Vila,
Thanks for Reply, i did searched SDN before raising this question. i stumble upon this difference between A2A and B2B scenarios.but the question still remain in my head what adapters should i use for B2B scenario is it necessary that i should use EDIFACT for B2B & not for A2A. Here in my company we are handling a client which has several legacy system in landscape which are integrated to SAP ERP with SAP PI here they mostly used File Adapters, what happens if i use File Adapters for B2B scenario.
Best Regards
Priyesh Shah

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B2B Scenarios?? Urgent

Hi XI experts..
Anybody explain about Busines 2 business scenarios..
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Share to me Some Real Time Example's..
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/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/09/13/wanna-party
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/69/a6fb3fea9df028e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/03/23/rfc--xi--webservice--a-complete-walkthrough-part-1
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/03/28/rfc--xi--webservice--a-complete-walkthrough-part-2
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Hi,
Here goes a simple explanation :
A2A is application to application. When two applications in a company communicates with each other we call it an A2A scenario and if its across Companies we call it B2B or buisness to buisness.
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I think its a B2B scenario...
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Hi,
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/people/shailesh.mane/blog/2006/06/29/b2b-configuration-part-ii--creating-the-configuration-using-the-automated-configuration-tool
/people/james.guanzon/blog/2006/02/22/how-to-support-industry-standards-in-xi-part-i-of-iii--interfaces
/people/james.guanzon/blog/2006/03/23/how-to-support-industry-standards-in-xi-part-ii-of-iii--mapping
/people/james.guanzon/blog/2006/09/09/how-to-support-industry-standards-in-xi-part-iii-of-iii--config-test
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/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/03/23/rfc--xi--webservice--a-complete-walkthrough-part-1
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/03/28/rfc--xi--webservice--a-complete-walkthrough-part-2
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/people/siva.maranani/blog/2005/03/01/testing-xi-exposed-web-services
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/03/29/configuring-the-sender-rfc-adapter--step-by-step
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/2131 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/336365d3-0401-0010-9884-
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/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/09/08/b2b-and-the-hype-about-the-party
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/09/13/wanna-party
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/69/a6fb3fea9df028e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
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